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Hate the English??
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I was refering to the Celtic/Anglo saxon traditions within Britain & Ireland (Ire/Eng/Scot/Wales)
How convenient. Just ignore the Celtic, Anglo and Saxon traditions that exist throughout the rest of Europe. That might contradict your point lolIt is not just convienent to compare Irish & British culture with each other, because the two cultures are so similar & so intertwined as to be virtually identical (apart from a regional difference) eg; Northern England/ Southern Ireland, the similarities have been mentioned many times before, from the Irish love affair with English Premiership football to Fish & Chips & everything else in between.
English Football and Fish&Chip shops hardly constitute culture. English Football is now an interntaional franchise and a poster boy for globilisation. Fish and Chip shops, which in Ireland are run by mainly by Italians, are remarkably similar to the fast food shops around the world. Are you seriously saying a fast food shop is representative of culture?? Have you heard of McDonalds and Burger King?? Far more people eat at these AMERICAN outlets than anywhere else.The very term 'UK' encompases part of this island along with Scotland, England & Wales, so of course there is a strong similarity between Irish/British/ English/ Scottish/ Welsh cultures > we are all connected! .
Really?? have you ever visited Belfast. If you had you would see two distinct ethnic groups, one British , one Irish. Besides geographical location doesn't imply a natural cultural connection. Look at mainland Europe. "We are all connected"?? Sounds like a mobile phone advert, and its equally as shallow. Just another one of your sweeping unsubstantiated statements.You are despirately trying to pretend that we are as similar to US culture as we are to British culture, sorry mate, 'it doesn't wash' we are were we are globally (24 miles from the island next door), part of this island is in the UK, and our blood lines are so intertwined with Britain & England as to make little difference. (just ask Ryan Tubridy)
Total rubbish, proximity does not mean we are cultrually connected. Kilometers ( Which is what we use in Ireland by the way), means nothing in the modern age. America has more infleunce via media such as movies etc than Britain. Take a walk around D4 and hear all the AMERICAN accents of the teenagers. Its a sad but true reality of American driven globilisation. But again, this is not true culture. Also bloodlines??? There are about 5 times the number of people in the USA with Irish Blood than in Britain. The Irish ethnic group in America is second only to that of the Germans.Yes, Irish poetry, like Welsh poetry or Yorkshire clog dancing has a regional theme, but that doesn't mean that Irish culture is alien to English/British culture
You say regional, but in Irelands case its nationalistic. Furthermore the linguistic structures used in Irish writing is not used in British writing. For example Hiberno-English uses tenses adopted directly from Irish.Now I have been at English trad music events in the past, and I can honestly say that a lot of English Trad music is very similar to Irish Trad music, and in some cases the two are interlinked, (yes there are diffenences) but the British/Irish/English trad music scene is very connected.
This proves to me that you have an agenda. Its clearly a ridiculous statement. Yes Trad Irish music is similar to English Trad. The only differences are the instruments, the style, the rythm, the dancing etc etc LOL LOLYes indeed, Ireland shares its climate with the rest of the British isles, yes the Irish dress the same as their counterparts up North & in Britain too, and I say again, our culture is under the same cultural umbrella as the rest of these islands. and if you have failed to see this 'I feel very sorry for you'.
British Isles???? LOL LOL Are you sure you're Irish?? That term is officially discouraged in Ireland. Even the National Geographic magazine stopped using it in 2008 becuase it implies political ties. As for clothes, since when has Armani, Nike, Adidas, Timberland etc etc etc been British? Again, this is globilisation, something which I think you don't fully grasp.Maybe you have never travelled or lived in Britain? which might explain your narrow view of our very strong similarities with the British & 'the English'. I certainly can't think of a reason to 'Hate' the English ............
Lol lol of course ! Becuase I don't follow your narrow minded pro-British ferver, I must be a uneducated untravelled fool. Sadly for you the reality is quite the opposite. All the "strong similarities" you mention are results of American driven globilisation. You also use the term "OUR" as if me and you are from the same stock. We are obviously not. Its not your defence of England that leads me to believe your not Irish, its your use of terms such as MILES and British Isles. You also seem to have limited knowledge of Irish culture and make sweeping generalistions that are clearly innacurate eg Irish and English trad music. If you are Irish, I still believe we are VERY different breeds of Irish people. But Im confident my breed of people are in the majority.0 -
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Whatever about miles(don't get why you'd use it anyway when everything is in km), British Isles shouldn't be used because we're not British. Without gettin into some mad debate on it, it goes back before Irish independence, its an outdated term that has no relevance to Ireland anymore. And the same people sh*tin on that its a geographical term never actually use it in a geographical context, its always to refer to the 2 states. If yeh wana refer to the 2 countries collectively just say Britain and Ireland, its not f***kin hard...
There's nothing wrong with it as a geographical term.
Relax, it doesn't mean ur British, they're just words,
they can't hurt you.
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There's nothing wrong with it as a geographical term.
Relax, it doesn't mean ur British, they're just words,
they can't hurt you.
There's nothing "geographical" about the term "British Isles". The earliest known use of the term, according to the latest version of the Oxford English Dictionary (September 2008) is by the English-born "British" imperialist John Dee. That was in 1577. It was a neologism used by Dee as he advocated the Tudor family's assertion of control over Ireland in his imperialist discourse, The Arte of Navigation:"The syncere Intent, and faythfull Aduise, of Georgius Gemistus Pletho, was, I could..frame and shape very much of Gemistus those his two Greek Orations..for our Brytish Iles, and in better and more allowable manner."So, never mind this modern British eurosceptic nonsense about the term "British Isles" being a harmless "geographical" term which dates back millenia. It is neither ancient nor 'geographic" in origin. In terms of asserting British control over Ireland, in its origins and use it is about as political a term as one can get. This explains why mainstream British media have abandoned the term, as have international publications such as National Geographic.0
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