MPEG4 tests - Not a Public Service

Mr McBoatface · 29-08-2009 6:16pm

Hi naturalblue , I've not got any signal at all for the last few days . I would agree with what watty says to a point. It may be best to wait until next year for the service to start before buying any equipment. Personally I won't buy a box set box or a cam card ever, I'm a D.I.Y. home theater PC user and I am receiving free-sat and free-view (well the Irish test dtt) on a nice PC I've made. I purchased my DVB-T card early in the year when the September start date for the service was still being floated about. In my case the DVB-T pci card was a not too expensive add on to an up and running system and it will work with the aid of software decoding. Also my dvb-t card is hybrid so can receive analogue too, it was a safe bet as such.

When the signal is available I find the quality to be top notch , it's just a shame the roll out was delayed but in my case the equipment I purchased will work when ever the DTT service becomes available (At least I hope so !!! ) and it also works with the analogue service.

I would still like confirmation from a somebody else that the signal from mount leinster is gone so I can rule out something like a fault in my master head amp.

Mr McBoatface · 29-08-2009 6:17pm

Hi naturalblue , I've not got any signal at all for the last few days . I would agree with what watty says to a point. It may be best to wait until next year for the service to start before buying any equipment. Personally I won't buy a box set box or a cam card ever, I'm a D.I.Y. home theater PC user and I am receiving free-sat and free-view (well the Irish test dtt) on a nice PC I've made. I purchased my DVB-T card early in the year when the September start date for the service was still being floated about. In my case the DVB-T pci card was a not too expensive add on to an up and running system and it will work with the aid of software decoding. Also my dvb-t card is hybrid so can receive analogue too, it was a safe bet as such.

When the signal is available I find the quality to be top notch , it's just a shame the roll out was delayed but in my case the equipment I purchased will work when ever the DTT service becomes available (At least I hope so !!! ) and it also works with the analogue service.

I would still like confirmation from a somebody else that the signal from mount leinster is gone so I can rule out something like a fault in my master head amp.

Grovel · 31-08-2009 7:39pm

Just got a surprise when I picked up Irish DTT test on Ch61 today. PQ not too bad (much pixelation) - but pleasantly surprised given the horrible analogue reception. Not sure if broadcast originates from Three Rock or Kippure, my loft aerial points in the general direction of both from North Kildare. (If I was serious about getting terrestrial TV I would get properly aligned external aerial installed.)

I was a little surprised to get pictures on my Brit spec'd Panasonic TXP42G10B. Was unsure whether this TV was capable of receiving Irish DTT (I know it has MPEG4 capability for FreeSat HD - don't know if todays reception is MP2 or MP4).

Interested to see if it hangs together for final DTT roll-out. Not really expecting it to - planning to get external STB if I opted to get domestic Irish channels via terrestrial.

slegs · 31-08-2009 8:00pm

Grovel wrote: »

Just got a surprise when I picked up Irish DTT test on Ch61 today. PQ not too bad (much pixelation) - but pleasantly surprised given the horrible analogue reception. Not sure if broadcast originates from Three Rock or Kippure, my loft aerial points in the general direction of both from North Kildare. (If I was serious about getting terrestrial TV I would get properly aligned external aerial installed.)

I was a little surprised to get pictures on my Brit spec'd Panasonic TXP42G10B. Was unsure whether this TV was capable of receiving Irish DTT (I know it has MPEG4 capability for FreeSat HD - don't know if todays reception is MP2 or MP4).

Interested to see if it hangs together for final DTT roll-out. Not really expecting it to - planning to get external STB if I opted to get domestic Irish channels via terrestrial.

Final DTT rollout is DVB-T/ MPEG4. This Panasonic is DVB-T/MPEG4 so it will work. You should also get Digital Aertel on RTE when you press text. There were issues with some other Panasonics where even though they were DVB-T/MPEG4 the firmware wasnt updated to latest DVB-T spec thereby ignoring the codec identifier RTE were using.

The DVB-T tuner in your Panasonic will be as good as any Set top box you wish to purchase. Your only reason to get an STB is for recording purposes.

31-08-2009 8:00pm

Grovel wrote: »

Just got a surprise when I picked up Irish DTT test on Ch61 today. PQ not too bad (much pixelation) - but pleasantly surprised given the horrible analogue reception. Not sure if broadcast originates from Three Rock or Kippure, my loft aerial points in the general direction of both from North Kildare. (If I was serious about getting terrestrial TV I would get properly aligned external aerial installed.)

I was a little surprised to get pictures on my Brit spec'd Panasonic TXP42G10B. Was unsure whether this TV was capable of receiving Irish DTT (I know it has MPEG4 capability for FreeSat HD - don't know if todays reception is MP2 or MP4).

Interested to see if it hangs together for final DTT roll-out. Not really expecting it to - planning to get external STB if I opted to get domestic Irish channels via terrestrial.

From what I've read on here it appears that RTÉ have reverted the service descriptor type back to 0x01. When it was set to 0x16 the Panasonic Freesat TVs wouldn't pick it up.

The_Conductor · 31-08-2009 8:02pm

Karsini wrote: »

From what I've read on here it appears that RTÉ have reverted the service descriptor type back to 0x01. When it was set to 0x16 the Panasonic Freesat TVs wouldn't pick it up.

Apparently some of RTE NL engineers- actually read this forum

More Music · 31-08-2009 8:41pm

smccarrick wrote: »

Apparently some of RTE NL engineers- actually read this forum

Yes they do!

fuzionzone · 31-08-2009 9:02pm

Hi,

I have been receiving MPEG4 Tests from 3-Rock Mountain since august 2008 with only the occasional interruption of service.

This evening, Monday 31.08.2009, I am getting no signal on DTT.

I am based in Dublin City Centre.
It was working earlier this morning before I went to work.

Is anyone else having a similar problem ?

Regards,

FZ

DigiDec · 31-08-2009 9:22pm

ch 54 is off right now, try ch 61

Grovel · 31-08-2009 9:58pm

DigiDec wrote: »

ch 54 is off right now, try ch 61

Do you know if Ch61 transmission originates from Three Rock or Kippure? (I read that Three Rock was transmitting on ch54)

Grovel · 31-08-2009 10:02pm

smccarrick wrote: »

Apparently some of RTE NL engineers- actually read this forum

... so is there an opportunity to influence RTÉNL to maintain the service descriptor type as 0x01 so that Panasonic FreeSat TVs will continue to work in future. This will save me (and many others, I am sure) some money and save cluttering up living rooms around the country with unnecessary ancillary boxes.

fuzionzone · 31-08-2009 10:31pm

Hi,

DTT from 3-Rock mountain Dublin gone for me (Dublin City Centre) Monday 31.08.2009 @ 1900.
Was working earlier this morning before I went to work.
RTE1,RTE2,TV3,TG4,RTENLTest were broadcast on channels 54.
Nothing coming in tonight.
I have tried channel 61 but am getting no signal either.
Anyone else having this problem ?

FZ

Red Giant · 31-08-2009 10:34pm

nothing here in Glasnevin tonight except crap analogoe

Red Giant · 31-08-2009 10:36pm

Sorry! Analogue!!!!

01-09-2009 6:15am

Grovel wrote: »

Do you know if Ch61 transmission originates from Three Rock or Kippure? (I read that Three Rock was transmitting on ch54)

61 is kippure.

01-09-2009 11:45am

I am in Balbriggan. I am still getting digital from RTE. The only problem I have this week is that there is no sound with the picture on digital services. I am using a Philips 42PFL9803 TV.

DigiDec · 01-09-2009 4:27pm

Im northside Dublin and getting them on Ch 61 still from Kippure, ch 54 is off

Red Giant · 01-09-2009 4:33pm

All channels back here today

DigiDec · 01-09-2009 6:12pm

ch 54 back now from Three Rock

gfinn · 02-09-2009 8:42am

Didn't notice any interruption from Woodcock hill. I'm seeing the time in the EPG getting mixed up a bit over the last week or so though. Sometimes an hour fast, sometimes correct. I remember an earlier post about that but I wasn't seeing it here at the time.

Pat Gleeson · 02-09-2009 8:51am

gfinn wrote: »

I'm seeing the time in the EPG getting mixed up a bit over the last week or so though. Sometimes an hour fast, sometimes correct.

That's been the case for months now. More often the time is 1 hour behind (GMT?) rather than correct.

gfinn · 02-09-2009 9:12am

Strange, I'm seeing the "wall clock" time an hour fast or correct. For example if I set the timer for CSI at 21:00 the tv will switch on at 20:00 (Sony Bravia). I've only noticed this within the last month but I saw posts a while back complaining of the wrong time (fast or slow, I don't remember). I wasn't seeing the same problem back then....but I only watch the box for an hour or 2 in the evening.

STB · 02-09-2009 10:18am

Three Rock is back alright but the Service type must have been changed again to possibly 0x16 -didnt check the stream with TSreader - but an LZD81 wouldnt scan freshly.

I suggest you switch off your network messages on the panisonics so that it wont rescan and lose CH54.

mburke · 02-09-2009 11:39am

In Tullamore area and the mpeg4 test is not working since last week for me. Pity considering analogue reception here is crap.

dugganb · 02-09-2009 6:18pm

Got my Terratec H5 today,

Perfect DTT picture from Spur Hill (Cork) with the supplied indoor aerial.

I'm based near Ballincollig.

L1011 · 03-09-2009 8:54pm

RTE1 on test bars tonight.

Frisian · 04-09-2009 11:57am

RTÉ One back here on Truskmore.

John Dough · 04-09-2009 3:22pm

STB wrote: »

Three Rock is back alright but the Service type must have been changed again to possibly 0x16 -didnt check the stream with TSreader - but an LZD81 wouldnt scan freshly.

I suggest you switch off your network messages on the panisonics so that it wont rescan and lose CH54.

Did a scan yesterday and all tv channels were saved as radio!!!

marathont · 08-09-2009 8:54pm

Can someone confirm if the audio is out of sync on TV3 from mt leinster, or is just me?

Also, The times on the EPG seem to be an hour ahead of the real times. Is this the case for everyone?

Mr McBoatface · 08-09-2009 9:31pm

marathont : Just checked , I've got audio problem from mount leinster too (I use an internet based epg grabber so can't comment on the EPG)

Peddyr · 08-09-2009 9:52pm

marathont wrote: »

Can someone confirm if the audio is out of sync on TV3 from mt leinster, or is just me?

Also, The times on the EPG seem to be an hour ahead of the real times. Is this the case for everyone?

Three Rock and Kippure also out of sync tonight.

Fredd · 08-09-2009 10:06pm

RTE1 has had poor lip sync for weeks

John Dough · 09-09-2009 1:33pm

Yep noticed that last night on TV3 thought it was box playing up switched off and reset still the same on TV3 although the rest were in sync.

ethernet · 12-09-2009 2:08pm

TV3 finally seems to be setting the correct aspect ratio on its programming. 4:3 panscan actually works now. Previously, it looked like 4:3 in 4:3 letterbox -- awful.

Barr · 14-09-2009 10:01pm

Just tuned in the Irish digital channels tonite , is it normal for TV3 to be out of synch sound wise ?

CrowdedHouse · 15-09-2009 6:41am

Not normal but that's the way it is

Miles out of sync

John Dough · 15-09-2009 2:24pm

Barr wrote: »

Just tuned in the Irish digital channels tonite , is it normal for TV3 to be out of synch sound wise ?

Been like that for over a week engineers must be deaf!!! then again it is only a test.

fat-tony · 15-09-2009 3:27pm

John Dough wrote: »

Been like that for over a week engineers must be deaf!!! then again it is only a test.

Fixed now since before lunchtime.

thejuggler · 17-09-2009 10:07am

I noticed the picture is out of sync with the audio on RTE 1 from Spur Hill the other night. Not sure if the other channels are affected.

Any plans to fix this RTENL engineers?

The_Conductor · 17-09-2009 10:21am

thejuggler wrote: »

I noticed the picture is out of sync with the audio on RTE 1 from Spur Hill the other night. Not sure if the other channels are affected.

Any plans to fix this RTENL engineers?

The engineers aren't allowed to comment directly on here

thejuggler · 17-09-2009 10:30am

smccarrick wrote: »

The engineers aren't allowed to comment directly on here

I wonder why that is? Maybe its being done on purpose to stop us watching before the 'ofeeshal' launch.

Its interesting that none of the papers have commented on the tests using the 'waste of taxpayers money' angle transmitting the channels for months before launch.

The_Conductor · 17-09-2009 10:32am

Years......

mburke · 17-09-2009 11:03am

Anyone in the midlands Offaly region able to pick up these tests as I used to until around 2 weeks ago but no joy now ?

yellabelly · 30-09-2009 10:39am

Is anyone still having problems with lip sync? I don't think mine has been in sync for months. I'm tuned to 794MHz on a ClarkTech 5000C. I'm not sure which transmitter I'm using because we are equidistant between Three Rock, Clermont Carn and Carn Hill.

Also the 7 day EPG isn't quite right. It loses some program titles to be replace with the text "(null)". The times and program descriptions are all correct - the problem is only with the titles. I'm not sure if these issues are just with the Clark Tech. Everything was perfect when it was MPEG2. Thanks

Schintzel · 30-09-2009 12:20pm

yellabelly wrote: »

Is anyone still having problems with lip sync? I don't think mine has been in sync for months. I'm tuned to 794MHz on a ClarkTech 5000C. I'm not sure which transmitter I'm using because we are equidistant between Three Rock, Clermont Carn and Carn Hill.

Also the 7 day EPG isn't quite right. It loses some program titles to be replace with the text "(null)". The times and program descriptions are all correct - the problem is only with the titles. I'm not sure if these issues are just with the Clark Tech. Everything was perfect when it was MPEG2. Thanks

The null problem was fixed by a recent firmware update, you can get the latest release here. A bonus is that the switching time between channels has been halved as well, now 1 and 2s for mpg2 and mpg4 respectively.:D
Haven't seen any lip sync problems recently from CC but noticed this morning that TV3 has gone back to a test signal. Pity because they only recently switched to a proper widescreen picture from a stretched 4:3:mad:

Fredd · 30-09-2009 1:15pm

I agree on the "null" issue. Was fixed by installing 179 firmware. However I feel that RTE1 is slightly loose on lip sync on DTT but looks fine on SKY. TV3 is on colour bars from Three Rock at the moment. Also digital subtitle not available on DTTas yet.

The_Conductor · 30-09-2009 4:08pm

yellabelly wrote: »

Is anyone still having problems with lip sync? I don't think mine has been in sync for months. I'm tuned to 794MHz on a ClarkTech 5000C. I'm not sure which transmitter I'm using because we are equidistant between Three Rock, Clermont Carn and Carn Hill.

Also the 7 day EPG isn't quite right. It loses some program titles to be replace with the text "(null)". The times and program descriptions are all correct - the problem is only with the titles. I'm not sure if these issues are just with the Clark Tech. Everything was perfect when it was MPEG2. Thanks

All fine on all channels from 3Rock. Previous issue (mostly with TV3) resolved.

Bob_Harris · 30-09-2009 5:00pm

TV3 test card on Mt Leinster now.

CrowdedHouse · 30-09-2009 5:34pm

Same - Test card on Mahera & Cairn Hill - no great loss

BTW Kippure is well down on power here(44% instead of 80) unusable

yellabelly · 30-09-2009 9:31pm

Thanks for the help. Clark Tech EPG sorted after firmware upgrade to 1.79. Also ITV HD working perfectly for the first time.
Channels on 794MHz are all down tonight so perhaps this was coming from Kippure.

MPEG4 tests - Not a Public Service

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