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This is Nitelive....

  • 30-12-2008 7:11pm
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,315 ✭✭✭


    so I see RTE are making the poor mans version of The Day Today 14 years later once they think everyone has forgotten. just like how Naked Camera is the poor mans Trigger Happy.
    Im expecting maybe a few guilty laughs but in all it wont be as clever or have the same longevity of Chris Morris' first foray into telly. its definitely looking far cheesier and probably wont take itself as seriously as The Day Today... which is pretty much proof that RTE is missing the point (just like when they show at the end of Naked Camera all the ppl that have been duped). The Day Today was so brilliant because it took it self so ultra seriously, naming your 'Anchor' Jonny Handsome immediately negates this so Im expecting a full urination over Chris Morris original idea. well done RTE


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  • Registered Users Posts: 596 ✭✭✭TheBlock


    I agree... haven't seen it coz it hasn't actually been filmed but your right its absolute ****e.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,315 ✭✭✭Jazzy


    just some pre speculation. i doubt im going to be wrong tho, RTE have a very bad habit of missing the point. especially in comedy. instead they tend to latch onto something that has already proved popular, dress it up differently, mutate it so that it seems original and then completely miss the point on wat made the original brilliant.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 914 ✭✭✭tommyboy2222


    Naked Camera is the poor mans Trigger Happy.

    Naked Camera was the poor mans Candid Camera Einstein


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,315 ✭✭✭Jazzy


    einstein says that naked camera like trigger happy uses established characters in a hidden camera style


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,082 ✭✭✭lostexpectation


    i think this was all conjured up on the basis that john ryan wanted to wear red braces.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    TheBlock wrote: »
    I agree... haven't seen it coz it hasn't actually been filmed but your right its absolute ****e.

    Well since it's starting tonight on TV I would guess that it has been filmed.

    I saw the pilot and it had 1 good joke that I liked. It's more Anchorman than Day Today and it robs stuff from everywhere.

    Set your expectations on 'low'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,309 ✭✭✭giftgrub


    I just saw a promo for this....

    From RTE's website
    http://www.rte.ie/tv/thisisnightlive/
    This is Nightlive

    Anchorman Johnny Hansom and his team present this weekly Lifestyle News show where 'they are the news'

    CHANGE - You Can't Believe In. This is Nightlive is a new half-hour weekly show beginning on Monday 5th January.

    Nightlive, best-dressed current-affairs team in the 2008 VIP Style Awards, is in its fourth year and heading into an uncertain future.

    Lead by Johnny Hansom (born: Declan Foley), an increasingly unhinged former DJ, the show - the first from RTÉ's Lifestyle News Department - is struggling to find the right tone as the country sinks into recession.

    Into this world comes Una Og Nic Ni Suillicaint, a beautiful new co-host with a lofty news agenda. Unfortunately, she's chosen a news team as dysfunctional as the stories it reports. Joining Johnny are entertainment correspondent Jackie Byrne-Daly, sports reporter Trevor Corocran and weatherman Mike 'Cloudy Walsh.

    Theres also an article here
    http://www.tribune.ie/news/home-news/article/2009/jan/04/the-diary-ken-sweeney-ryan-expects-a-good-kicking-/

    I'm going to take a deep breath and give it a go....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    So its a parody of TV3?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,315 ✭✭✭Jazzy


    terrible stuff.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Sunni south east?

    It ain't The Day Today

    I just bailed out.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,978 ✭✭✭445279.ie


    I'm quite enjoying it

    edit - second half was a bit crap


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,626 ✭✭✭Stargal


    It's just over now and I won't be watching again. It's a good idea, badly executed. Unfunny, uninspired and unwatchable.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,407 ✭✭✭gerky


    I found it hard to watch, it's like they tried to take several bits from other programs mashed them together and hoped for the best.
    The lead fella looked as if he's trying to copy the Colbert style, there is only one Colbert:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,591 ✭✭✭✭Aidric


    Smacked of trying too hard, let down by poor writing. I might give it another go but probably not.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,492 ✭✭✭MementoMori


    Pretty much an attempt to mash together several elements from other better sources and failing miserably. Nothing original whatsoever and not very funny.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭Sandwich


    Darned funny I thought. John Ryan was excelent. The joke might be a bit thin but hope they can sustain it for a few more episodes.
    I know its traditional to trash 'RTE comedy' as an oxymoron , but credit where its due.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 130 ✭✭redcrew


    I laughed quite a bit to be honest...silly things like the Sunni South East...and the scrolling bar along the bottom.

    I think it might take 2 or 3 episodes to get into properly but I'll give it a go next week


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,179 ✭✭✭RichTea


    The idea has potential but they really didn't carry it out as well as they could have. There were some funny bits, to give them credit.

    The thing that bugged me throughout was the overall silence throughout. The pauses seemed really awkward and it carried on for the duration of the show.

    RTÉ tried to mash together the Office, Anchorman, The Daily Show / Colbert Report amongst other things here. It hasn't quite gone too well so far but I'm prepared to give it another lash.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,470 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    I actually thought John Ryan was quite good in his role. Definitely the best thing on it. The material itself wasn't really up to scratch though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9 Apartment


    It was better than I was expecting.:)

    Project HA HA on the other hand is absolutley dreadful!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Amazing, another new RTE comedy thread and another debut poster with the thumbs up (cynical moi? ;) )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,626 ✭✭✭Stargal


    gerky wrote: »
    I found it hard to watch, it's like they tried to take several bits from other programs mashed them together and hoped for the best.
    The lead fella looked as if he's trying to copy the Colbert style, there is only one Colbert:)
    Yeah that's exactly it. A half-assed mixture of The Day Today, Anchorman, Colbert Report and the Daily Show performed by the Rathmines and Rathgar Musical Society.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,315 ✭✭✭Jazzy


    twas a big load of cr@p. RTE trying too hard and the whole thing was entirely unoriginal. looks like they are trying to emulate The Onion among others. pity the onion has some actual talent behind it, the ppl writing this and putting it together dont have a clue as to what good comedy writing is. they reckon if they tell you its good then it will be, pretty much like any of the recent shows RTE has farted out


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,393 ✭✭✭elshambo


    Stargal wrote: »

    performed by the Rathmines and Rathgar Musical Society.

    oooh SNAP!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭Bondvillain


    One or two mildly entertaining ideas, let down by terrible material and performances more suited to a youth club stage drama about the dangers of Heroin.


  • Registered Users Posts: 49 wolfgang123


    ****e. As is Project ha ha / dead cat bounce. Who the hell keeps commisioning this dross ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 870 ✭✭✭Pen1987


    Anyone see that satire on the Irish Television Awards done by the same people who did Soupy Norman (I think)? it was on RTE late the other night, had me in bit laughing, best Irish comedy I've seen in around 5 years. This was an improvement on the average RTE stuff but nothing amazing...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40 warrenstown


    RichTea wrote: »
    The thing that bugged me throughout was the overall silence throughout. The pauses seemed really awkward and it carried on for the duration of the show.

    It wasn't bad but that odd silence in the studio was annoying alright! Tighter editing could get rid of those awkward pauses too.
    Some of the lines were funny such as their entertainment correspondent being 'beautifully preserved' (a dig at Lorraine Keane?).
    The news tracker on the bottom had funny stuff but it moved too slowly for me.

    Ryan doesn't seem to be afraid to rip the piss out of Irish media institutions either, which is a good thing.

    Couldn't help but notice that the news anchor in the following HA HA programme was a bit funnier that the Johny Hansome character!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9 Apartment


    mike65 wrote: »
    Amazing, another new RTE comedy thread and another debut poster with the thumbs up (cynical moi? ;) )


    Okay you got me ..I admit it...I'm the writer.

    Not! :)

    Yes cynical you :rolleyes:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,393 ✭✭✭elshambo


    Apartment wrote: »
    Okay you got me ..I admit it...I'm the writer.

    Not! :)

    Yes cynical you :rolleyes:

    Well your humour is certainly out of date enough:eek:
    to have written that dross:D:D


    BTW :D;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 outlier79


    I thought it was a good first effort. It was self-mocking, didn't take itself seriously and had some great lines - "i'd love to hear an irish speaking vagina". As satire, the piece about charity building projects in Turkey was bang on the money


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,179 ✭✭✭RichTea


    The news tracker on the bottom had funny stuff but it moved too slowly for me.

    QUOTE]


    The ticker crawled along didn't it!? Just keep it at an ordinary pace and the mini-laughs will come. I wonder now if the speed of the ticker was intentional but thats beside the point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,946 ✭✭✭JDxtra


    Their set and graphics are better than the real ones from TV3! Show was OK, might give it another go to see if it improves.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    I imagine it was to take account of the average RTE comedy fan.

    re Apartment, soz if I impugned your integrity but as you can see already there are a few debuts on this thread. It happens every time RTE starts a new comedy. Nice that boards is now so important for sounding out opinion :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,393 ✭✭✭elshambo


    outlier79 wrote: »
    I thought it was a good first effort. It was self-mocking, didn't take itself seriously and had some great lines - "i'd love to hear an irish speaking vagina". As satire, the piece about charity building projects in Turkey was bang on the money

    Is the Boards RTE Comedy First Post Club a bit like the Joy Luck Club
    without the Luck or the Joy?

    Weakly scripted,poorly paced, the gaps where id imagine a joke on the awful gaps that appear in the shows it was having a dig at.

    Too many bad actors turn to comedy in this country!:eek:

    It was stuck between too knowing and not knowing enough, there is a fine line and they tried to draw it with a cheap roller:rolleyes:


    *
    I would love to know how many script edits RTE comedy shows go through because it never looks like enough
    eg. Apparently some epsodes of Peep Show have gone through over 20 script edits
    (only has 2 writers)
    I cant see ANY RTE show going through more than 2-3 edits
    Some would be lucky to see 1 K. Lynch for example :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Tighter editing could get rid of those awkward pauses too.

    To paraphrase McBain - "That was the joke!"

    They were going for that **** TV3 News style. Didn't work though. As already pointed out the news anchor in Dead Cat Bounce was far sharper.

    Oh and to Apartment - Hi Mr. Ryan, better luck next time!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,179 ✭✭✭RichTea


    elshambo wrote: »
    Is the Boards RTE Comedy First Post Club a bit like the Joy Luck Club
    without the Luck or the Joy?

    Weakly scripted,poorly paced, the gaps where id imagine a joke on the awful gaps that appear in the shows it was having a dig at.

    Too many bad actors turn to comedy in this country!:eek:

    It was stuck between too knowing and not knowing enough, there is a fine line and they tried to draw it with a cheap roller:rolleyes:

    To be fair to John Ryan (;)) He does have a point about that Charity Building thing. Good satire there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9 Apartment


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    To paraphrase McBain - "That was the joke!"

    They were going for that **** TV3 News style. Didn't work though. As already pointed out the news anchor in Dead Cat Bounce was far sharper.

    Oh and to Apartment - Hi Mr. Ryan, better luck next time!


    Just to clear things up I am not John Ryan, I am a student.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,082 ✭✭✭lostexpectation


    it could have been worse but it was just a mishmash, it was satirsing american tv more then irish, it didn't do enough current stuff. :/

    the day today satirised itv and an american influenced news broadcasting but its targets were people like, who was it... cook, the aggressive news reporter, a brit.


    john ryan was doing the irish man pretending to be american, theres plenty of them around especially on radio, but who is it on irish tv news is he satirising?

    stephen colbert satirises rightwing americans because he's in america., ryan needs to satirise the irish.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,082 ✭✭✭lostexpectation


    i was woundering about the silence the other day, while watching the best comedies on tv3 with that sitcom ed byrne was in, they never get the silence right, the same with your bad self, there always cheap echo sound on the sitcom, american sitcoms sound better, and maybe deadcat bounce could have done with a real screening audience laughter....


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 52 ✭✭joeystrider


    The word necessary:

    TRITE

    My God. Offensively bad. It tried for that edgy "ooo did he just say that" brand of humour.

    And:

    Failed.

    And I love offensive humour. But this was awful.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 52 ✭✭joeystrider


    it could have been worse but it was just a mishmash, it was satirsiing american tv more then irish, it didn't do enough current stuff. :/

    Yes that is what I was thinking. It would have made more sense to target RTE's brand. The idea of the ostentatiously gaelgoiri woman anchor was good but poorly played through...

    The show had little comic timing at all and its attempts at edginess were just awkward.

    Thought the newsroom in Dead Cat Bounce was better.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,315 ✭✭✭Jazzy


    lovin being right :p


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,315 ✭✭✭Jazzy


    try as this show might it will never be as good as the following:

    The Day Today
    The Onion
    Brass Eye

    those prodictions ooze class and are extremely well written and have a certain bounce and flow to them. that drivel i saw last night was a cheap propped up imitation which completely misses the point in how to make a mock news show. spouting out a few fairly funny words until they make sense and sound controversial doesnt make a good mock news show. "Sunni South East" or watever that was was not funny. its just a cheap play on words that makes little to no sense. the writers of this show have not only missed the point, they seem to have done their best to make sure that they will never ever find it.
    im gonna put this out there - i could write better stuff then that sh1te


  • Registered Users Posts: 375 ✭✭DoubleJoe7


    Jazzy wrote: »
    im gonna put this out there - i could write better stuff then that sh1te


    :rolleyes:


    I thought it was ok - not great, not awful, but ok. It DEFINITELY needs tighter editing and it was hit and miss but the gag per minute ratio meant that would always be the case.

    I won't write it off after one show but I hope it picks up - regardless of what was said here some of the satire was very Irish related - the Stephen Ireland pisstake and the Rock the Recession two came to mind. I also liked how they started talking about how the irish arent comfortable talking about abortion before dropping it completely.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 DLL


    Personally I loved it! JR was fantastic - I'm still chuckling from the Poling the Poles gag! Don't remember the last time something on RTE made me laugh out loud!:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 redbiro


    I watched it last night and actually think its probably the best comedy show RTE have seen in a long time. Genuinely funny. The format is fresh and the writing is sharp. What other show on RTE can even be compared to Nightlive?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    DLL wrote: »
    Personally I loved it! JR was fantastic - I'm still chuckling from the Poling the Poles gag! Don't remember the last time something on RTE made me laugh out loud!:D

    Well at least you made yourself laugh John Ryan. That's all that matters. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    redbiro wrote: »
    What other show on RTE can even be compared to Nightlive?

    Yet another new account to discuss Nightlive. :rolleyes:

    Dead Cat Bounce afterwards was far superior redbiro.

    Although people's complaint that it wasn't taking the piss out of anything Irish is off - it's TV3 news and programming that it's really taking the piss of (just not too sharply!)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 choccydidgey


    I thought John Ryan was excellent. Saw the ad last week and I didn't really know what to expect but it made me laugh. This is unlike anything else i've seen on RTE. Loved the "asparagus day" sketch. Very clever. I think last nights episode set the scene, a lot was fit into the half hour! I will tune in next week :)


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