Arguement RE: Mopping

Zulu · 10-01-2008 2:08pm

Hill Billy wrote: »

Hi! I'm Barry Scott!!!
Get your apprentice to use Cillit Grime & Lime!
Just rinse & the dirt is gone!

Priceless post Hill Billy. Absolute classic. Thanks!

senordingdong · 10-01-2008 3:00pm

leninbenjamin wrote: »

to the OP: i would suggest attending a training course on staff management and communication. as already suggested, if you want him to deck scrub the floor you tell him to "deck scrub" it, not "mop".

I never told him to 'deck scrub', nor did I tell him to 'mop'.

I told him to clean the area, floor included. It is commonly agreed upon that water would be needed to clean the floor. Then the floor would need to be dried. It's pretty ****ing simple.
Christ.
Is the simple task of cleaning a floor now a thing of the past?

RedPlanet · 10-01-2008 3:12pm

A not uncommon problem with using the deck scrub is it has the potential of spraying dirty water up onto the sideboards along walls.
Due to the vigorous scrubbing motion commonly achieved.
This is avoided when using the mop-only method (wetting the floor, letting it steep before drying)

Rob_l · 10-01-2008 3:17pm

farohar wrote: »

That doesn't disprove what I said, there's no mention of scrubbing being a part of mopping there.:p

Huh thats a definition of mopping and scrubbing isn't included because that would be under a definition of scrubbing so seeing as scrubbing has nothing to do with mopping its not included in the original definition I gave

Howard the Duck · 10-01-2008 3:36pm

You say it's the canteen area of a garage. When would you ever learn how to "clean" a floor like that? i know my house doesn't have one. If it was his first time ever cleaning that floor then he has an excuse.
I've worked a few places where i've had to mop the floor and it only in one of them was i required to scrub the floor.

senordingdong · 10-01-2008 3:40pm

Howard the Duck wrote: »

You say it's the canteen area of a garage. When would you ever learn how to "clean" a floor like that? i know my house doesn't have one. If it was his first time ever cleaning that floor then he has an excuse.
I've worked a few places where i've had to mop the floor and it only in one of them was i required to scrub the floor.

And I think it's ****ing retarded that he is 19 and this is his first taste of the real world. It leaves me wondering if his mammy dresses him too.

Or do they just live in filth....

But that's not the point here really, ultimatly I was looking for a unanimous (sp?) confirmation on what is the proper way to use a mop. Or clean a floor.

Really bit off more then I can chew here.

Howard the Duck · 10-01-2008 3:46pm

senordingdong wrote: »

But that's not the point here really, ultimatly I was looking for a unanimous (sp?) confirmation on what is the proper way to use a mop. Or clean a floor.
.

I think most people would use a mop for cleaning a floor and not drying. With a bit of muscle you can remove most dirt and stains with a wet mop. But alot of places do use a mop for drying after using a deck scrub.
So i think there are two ways to use a mop not just one i don't think one is wrong and the other right ... it depends on the situation

senordingdong · 10-01-2008 3:54pm

You're all crazy.

milli · 10-01-2008 3:55pm

Howard the Duck wrote: »

I think most people would use a mop for cleaning a floor and not drying. With a bit of muscle you can remove most dirt and stains with a wet mop. But alot of places do use a mop for drying after using a deck scrub.
So i think there are two ways to use a mop not just one i don't think one is wrong and the other right ... it depends on the situation

Out of curiosity what exactly is a deck scrub?!

senordingdong · 10-01-2008 3:57pm

It's a hand held brush that requires the user to get on thier knees and use both hands to scrub the floor or 'deck' of a ship.

Zulu · 10-01-2008 4:01pm

milli wrote: »

Out of curiosity what exactly is a deck scrub?!

It's something you do if you don't want to "walk the plank". Arrr matey.

Manic Moran · 10-01-2008 4:48pm

Any mopping I've done has generally involved dunking mop in bucket, squeezing mop, apply mop to floor.

I submit that anyone who claims the mop doesn't do any cleaning should wash their clothes in the bucket afterwards.

NTM

10-01-2008 5:13pm

Mop the floor yourself next time Mr Ding Dong or get down on your hands and knees and show him how it's done to your standard.

If a bit of unsatisfactory mopping works you up I wouldn't like to see you on a bad day :rolleyes:

connundrum · 10-01-2008 5:16pm

A deck scrub.

ejmaztec · 10-01-2008 5:22pm

Seniordingdong should produce his own self-help video, which will show the rest of us dirty b*astards how to mop the floor. He could call it "The Mop Nazi Video".

Faith · 10-01-2008 5:31pm

As a woman who cleans her home regularly, and as someone who's had a lot of jobs that involved mopping, mopping involves filling a basin with hot water and detergent, dipping the mop in, getting it nice and wet, squeezing off the excess and then washing the floor with it. I've never heard of a mop being used for drying a floor!

Overheal · 10-01-2008 5:42pm

washin:

You dip
you mop
you dip
you mop

***

dryin:

you mop
you strain
you mop
you strain

if(finished && floor dry) finger->bum() ;

Of course you dry with a mop! youve clearly never worked around alcohol.

Reku · 10-01-2008 6:17pm

Rob_l wrote: »

Huh thats a definition of mopping and scrubbing isn't included because that would be under a definition of scrubbing so seeing as scrubbing has nothing to do with mopping its not included in the original definition I gave

farohar wrote: »

Quite simply: mopping is a required part of "scrubbing a floor" but scrubbing is not a required part of "mopping a floor".

Which you said was wrong and as your "evidence" gave the dictionary definition of mopping, which did not include any reference to scrubbing and as such you did not in fact show anything in my original statement to be incorrect.

Rob_l wrote: »

again not according to Webster's on-line dictionary its not

mopping
One entry found.
Function:
verb
Inflected Form(s):
mopped; mop·ping
Date:
1709

transitive verb1: to use a mop on; specifically : to clean or clear away by mopping <mop the floors> —often used with up<mop up the spillage> 2: to wipe as if with a mop <mopped his brow with a handkerchief>intransitive verb: to clean a surface (as a floor) with a mop

Next time you mop with dodgy cleaning agents wear a facemask, the fumes seem to be getting to you.:p

Naos · 10-01-2008 10:23pm

Mopping to me is as faith and pretty much everyone else on the thread has said it.

And squeeging(sp?) is fun? I used to work in a swimming pool, it's not fun.

Terry · 10-01-2008 10:34pm

How much does a jizz mopper get paid?

Naos · 10-01-2008 10:46pm

He works on tips.

the GALL · 10-01-2008 11:18pm

For the op

1 go to fridge
2 get beer
3 slip into sitting room
4 feet up
5 leave for 15/20 mins
6 shout in 'are ya alright luv'
7 check floor
8 sit back and congradulate yourself on a job well done

and the reason he is an apprentice is because he's learning the trade,
if he know everything he'd be you, give em a break. As his mentor lead by example, sounds like you've got a problem with that kid.

2 stroke · 10-01-2008 11:38pm

2 stroke wrote: »

I've actually seen a guy cleaning a mop by flushing it in the toilet. Thank god he wasn't cleaning the kitchen.

senordingdong wrote: »

And I suppose that was his bosses fault for not 'training him properly'?

you are actually trying to justify such bull****.
Hahah, you're priceless.

This guy was hired as an expierenced cleaner. He didn't last a day.

senordingdong wrote: »

It's bad enough the people can get to this age nowadays barely knowing howto wipe their own arse,

I never told him to 'deck scrub', nor did I tell him to 'mop'.

I told him to clean the area, floor included. It is commonly agreed upon that water would be needed to clean the floor. Then the floor would need to be dried. It's pretty ****ing simple.
Christ.
Is the simple task of cleaning a floor now a thing of the past?

You admit you were trained to clean floors by an employer not your mother.

senordingdong wrote: »

I was thought how to clean/mop a floor many many years ago in my first job as a lounge boy

pirelli · 11-01-2008 12:33am

senordingdong wrote: »

It's a hand held brush that requires the user to get on thier knees and use both hands to scrub the floor or 'deck' of a ship.

(and in case anyone else would take his side, you should take note of this too).

Take note: senordingdong as this line was your mistake. You might have won some admiration had you shared this thread with your assistant to see whom was correct. As it is you shoved the idea he is wrong at us and then suggest we should all be on our hands an kness scrubbing.! tsk

This is not the HSE it's a petrol station in the twentyfirst century . Your responsible to ensure safety and hygiene and as part of this there should be a procedure outlined that involves keeping a clean mop. It should NEVER involve a young person having to kneel on the ground scrubbing what you should consider your responsibilities. There are many cleaning techniques available and you wont find them on boards.ie.

The old hand held scrubbing brush is for particular difficult stains perhaps but was traditionally for stone and wood floor's etc..It is an antique as your canteen floor has been specially designed through micro manufacturing to be cleaned by a simple sweep and wet mop with soapy water. Most modern materials are engineered and manufactured to be almost impervious to any dirt.The young employee probably has a much better understanding of working with modern materials and deserves credit for cleaning the floor.You should from henceforth make sure the mop is clean going back into store.

kelle · 11-01-2008 5:04am

Cathooo wrote: »

Definition of mop

To clean a floor, the mop is soaked in a bucket of water or cleaning fluid and scrubbed against the surface. Some buckets include a wringer to strain excess water from the mop, so as not to saturate the floor. Mops are also often used to clean up liquid spills

That's exactly how I use a mop. As others have said, scrubbing with a brush first would only be used for hospitals, bars and restaurants etc.

I work in a hospital. As far as I've seen, the method used in the first paragraph is what I see being used. Our's is a large department, and 3 cleaners are allocated 1 hour to wash all the floors. They'd spend half the day on their hands and knees deck-scrubbing if that was the case.

At home, i use Vileda supermop and a bucket of disinfectant on my wooden floors and ceramic tiles. Just a thought OP, did the pub you work in have quarry tiles? You'd never clean those just using a mop.

RoyalMarine · 11-01-2008 6:13am

sweep or hover the floor.
warm soapy water.
mop goes in. then on the floor. wets the floor.

the air dries it.

WhiteWashMan · 11-01-2008 7:01am

**** me, and argument over mopping a floor.

you people would start a fight in an empty room. seriously

Overheal · 11-01-2008 9:28am

WhiteWashMan wrote: »

**** me, and argument over mopping a floor.

you people would start a fight in an empty room. seriously

we call them dojo's

Reku · 11-01-2008 9:37am

Overheal wrote: »

we call them dojo's

*imagines AH posters, all in bathrobes and all breaking the heads off brushes and mops in a room with a padded floor and fighting with them.*

Overheal · 11-01-2008 10:22am

farohar wrote: »

*imagines AH posters, all in bathrobes and all breaking the heads off brushes and mops in a room with a padded floor and fighting with them.*

Mop Fu?

Reku · 11-01-2008 10:26am

Overheal wrote: »

Mop Fu?

Nah, deadly Shaolin Mops!:D

Overheal · 11-01-2008 10:31am

Yeah: Shaolin Mop Fu. duh.

kelle · 11-01-2008 10:32am

Damn you all, you've reminded me my kitchen floor needs mopping and instead I'm on Boards....

Overheal · 11-01-2008 10:44am

Kitchens only need mopping once you start seeing mushrooms take root in the corner.

kevmy · 11-01-2008 10:57am

Hill Billy wrote: »

Hi! I'm Barry Scott!!!
Get your apprentice to use Cillit Grime & Lime!
Just rinse & the dirt is gone!

Finally an opportunity to post his again

http://dagobah.biz/flash/cillitbang.swf

Reku · 11-01-2008 11:03am

Overheal wrote: »

Kitchens only need mopping once you start seeing mushrooms take root in the corner.

Forget that, harvest time first me thinks.
You never know, you might get lucky and get the special kind.;)

Overheal · 11-01-2008 11:25am

Considering its been growing in a pool of fairy liquid: your odds are good

senordingdong · 11-01-2008 12:51pm

pirelli wrote: »

(and in case anyone else would take his side, you should take note of this too).

Take note: senordingdong as this line was your mistake. You might have won some admiration had you shared this thread with your assistant to see whom was correct. As it is you shoved the idea he is wrong at us and then suggest we should all be on our hands an kness scrubbing.! tsk

This is not the HSE it's a petrol station in the twentyfirst century . Your responsible to ensure safety and hygiene and as part of this there should be a procedure outlined that involves keeping a clean mop. It should NEVER involve a young person having to kneel on the ground scrubbing what you should consider your responsibilities. There are many cleaning techniques available and you wont find them on boards.ie.

The old hand held scrubbing brush is for particular difficult stains perhaps but was traditionally for stone and wood floor's etc..It is an antique as your canteen floor has been specially designed through micro manufacturing to be cleaned by a simple sweep and wet mop with soapy water. Most modern materials are engineered and manufactured to be almost impervious to any dirt.The young employee probably has a much better understanding of working with modern materials and deserves credit for cleaning the floor.You should from henceforth make sure the mop is clean going back into store.

Haha, calm down ya loon, nobody said anything about the poor **** having to be on his hands and knees.
Mop Nazis ftw btw.

ejmaztec · 11-01-2008 1:31pm

Seniordingdong, I couldn't help but notice that on another forum, you had an accident involving a pitchfork and a gas pipe. Should you not be asking what the correct method is, to avoid such a life-threatening problem, rather than look for support on a mop-related matter? If you had used a mop to dig the garden, it may have taken a lot longer, but you wouldn't have been landed with a repair bill.:)

Terry · 11-01-2008 1:49pm

WhiteWashMan wrote: »

**** me, and argument over mopping a floor.

you people would start a fight in an empty room. seriously

No we wouldn't.

senordingdong, I'll ask again. What type of apprenticeship is this?

senordingdong · 11-01-2008 2:47pm

ejmaztec wrote: »

Seniordingdong, I couldn't help but notice that on another forum, you had an accident involving a pitchfork and a gas pipe. Should you not be asking what the correct method is, to avoid such a life-threatening problem, rather than look for support on a mop-related matter? If you had used a mop to dig the garden, it may have taken a lot longer, but you wouldn't have been landed with a repair bill.:)

What's life threatening about puncturing a gas line with a pitchfork?

Terry, his apprenticeship is in refrigeration. Why does that matter?

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 11-01-2008 2:48pm

maybe you were smoking?

senordingdong · 11-01-2008 2:50pm

Even if I was it wouldn't have been a risk.

A gas line puncture really isn't the disaster Hollywood has made it out to be.

ejmaztec · 11-01-2008 3:01pm

senordingdong wrote: »

Even if I was it wouldn't have been a risk.

A gas line puncture really isn't the disaster Hollywood has made it out to be.

Pitchfork, pipe, rock, spark, boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooom!

Then say hello to the guys on the International Space Station, as you fly past them................................:p

senordingdong · 11-01-2008 3:09pm

No.
It's a domestic gasline for cryin out loud.

ejmaztec · 11-01-2008 3:14pm

Must be time to retreat into my underground blast-proof bunker.

senordingdong · 11-01-2008 3:44pm

Good.
Stay there.

ejmaztec · 11-01-2008 4:13pm

I'll have to mop it out first, haven't been in there for a while. Any hints?:p

senordingdong · 11-01-2008 4:14pm

Yep.
I refer you to my op.

ejmaztec · 11-01-2008 4:17pm

Thanks, I'll get me coat and a bucket.

Arguement RE: Mopping

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