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Home heating automation

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 235 ✭✭ct_roy


    Just discovered this amazing thread!

    I'm looking to modernise my heating controls. I just converted the attic as an extra third floor bed room and the room is a bit bigger and cooler than my current "Bed" zone (3 bed room semi-d all located on the second floor). Ideally I'd like to be able to control the attic room as its own zone.

    My current setup (pics below)

    • Glow worm Energy 18s system boiler
    • Climote controller (which i believe also has a stat in it for the living zone?)
    • CTC stat in the Bed zone
    • 2 zones and separate hot water cylinder upstairs in the hot press

    From my initial research (and from reading the extremely useful threads here) I've shortlisted:

    • Drayton Wiser Kit
    • Hive
    • Tado X

    I'm useless at DIY, so will be getting a plumber/electrician to do any install work (but I'm a techy so comfortable with the networking side of things).

    My questions:

    1.) Are Drayton Wiser officially supported in Ireland? I spotted a few threads with people having issues getting the app working due to not having UK addresses - is that still a thing?

    2.) I was leaning towards Tado initially, but given the recent changes to their pricing/subscription requirements that's put me off them a bit. But I'm still willing to consider them if their system is compelling enough overall.

    3.) Where do I find reliable experts who can install either Wiser or Tado in the Dublin area? I tried Googling for Wiser installer experts in Ireland - but there doesn't seem to be much out there?

    4.) Any opinions (good or bad on whether I should be considering Hive?) I spotted that Bord Gais seem to offer a Hive install service.

    5.) For my new attic room, will I be able to create a new attic Zone that demands heat directly from the boiler? Basically I want a reliable way of keeping the new attic room on the third floor heated more frequently than the other two floors.

    boiler.jpeg climote.jpeg ctc.jpeg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,235 ✭✭✭deezell


    Track down the location of the existing zone valves which split the flow to living , bed and HW. If they're all together in the upstairs hot press, then you should be able to branch off a flow and return to the attic room.

    Failing that you should be able to link it to the existing bedroom loops if the plumber can comfortably branch from an existing radiator flow and return. The new radiator could be fitted with a smart TRV head, which would allow it call the Bed zone, regulate that rooms temperature, and close it off from the Bed zone when its not needed. A Tado wireless kit would take care of the living room cintrol and HW timing, plus a Tado wired stat in place of the mechanical Bed zone one. A Tado TRV on the attic rad as discussed would give it some independence from the Bed Zone wired stat, it would use this as a relay to fire the boiler. A shortcoming of this is that all beds will heat when the attic TRV activates, as it's part of the same zone. A fully independent 3rd CH zone with its own wired stat or wireless if Hive or Drayton), is only possible with break out zone plumbing with its own zone valve operated by its stat.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 235 ✭✭ct_roy


    thanks for the quick reply @deezell - you're a legend :)

    >A shortcoming of this is that all beds will heat when the attic TRV activates, as it's part of the same zone.

    I'm probably ok with that shortcoming as I'll likely put smart TRV's on the second floor bedroom rads, meaning we could keep those rads off/low most of the time.

    Seems to be plenty of people installing Wiser looking at this thread. Do you know if there are any issues with their app when used in Ireland? 



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