Moderation of trans issue and terms

I'm offended by being told to use the terms you want me to use.

Why should the rules of the site require that I be offended, rather than you?

What words are you looking to have added to the word filter as a matter of interest?

Might be a good starting point, rather than the endless back and forth.

Actual slurs should definitely be in the filter, things like f*ggot, tra*ny, etc, but I think a lot of them might be already?

Beyond that you're into a bit of a minefield alright, could end up picking up normal words being used in conversation. Not sure how that'd work.

What are the terms that are being used, that you object to?

Just to offer my view here based on the thread that has gone on. It seems that some people are asking boards mods to be more aware of terms that are being used that may cause offense and hurt to a group of people. And other people are arguing that they should be allowed say what they want, but it doesn't cause hurt anyway or something like that? It's quite telling the differing motives at play. Being nice versus being allowed to be a dick.

You're in a feedback thread - seems a bit precious to refuse to clarify what you think would be acceptable. Especially as you've already done so several times on the thread concerned, where it actually is off topic.

The poster asking you in here, where it's on topic, didn't post on that thread, AFAIAA, so it's perfectly fair of them to ask you to give examples here.

I suppose the thing is, moderation is nuanced. Word filters are not.

If you think someone is being harassed or made to feel uncomfortable on the website then I'm all for bringing it to the attention of the moderator team. That kind of thing really isn't on and people should quite rightly be removed from the site for it.

What I'm a bit iffy on is people thinking such and such a sentence might be offensive to someone, therefore auto censoring comments. Seems draconian.

Terms that correctly identify the biological sex of a person doesn't invalidate the identity of a transgender person. Sex and Gender are different we are told. People are entitled to identify as they wish, but that doesn't mean that people aren't entitled to speak facts.

It really wasn't. Some people are saying that certain words could be deemed offensive by a small group and should be moderated out of existence on the site

Others are saying that stating biological fact shouldn't be discounted for people's feelings and that such moderation would be heavy handed.

Now if the recent years have taught me anything, this list of "offensive" terms will continue to grow and grow until ultimately we will be told that transwomen can't be referred to anything except a woman and trans men are referred to simply as men because the word "trans" stigmatises them.

I feel sorry for trans people who just want to get on with their life. The TRA's are making life worse for them by taking things to unrealistic lengths. By demanding people to ignore their lying eyes and ears and facts, they are further pushing the once tolerant people away.

Exactly, intent should be the main factor. Not what other people mistakingly take from a comment.

Moderation is tough enough as is. It doesn't help that 'don't be a dick' is subjective. What I think of as 'being a dick' won't be what other people think.

I don't think anything should be automated here. I do think moderation in certain instances should be stronger and quicker. But I get that the mods aren't robots and aren't as plentiful as they once were.

I guess the bit that disappoints me is that there would have been a time where it was widely understood by all what the line was and it was stuck to. But those days are, sadly, long gone.

That was months if not years ago, and the post was removed. It took a while because that was at a time when all reports were taking days to be acted on - extra mods have been named since then I believe. In fact I think it was before the rules changed in CA/IMHO, partly because the moderators were getting dragged into what they felt were time-wasting discussions that slowed the moderating down.

That post was (rightly) deemed to be against the rules both before and after the rule change, and moderating is somewhat faster now. Supposedly anyway.

Maybe what is needed, going by your description, is for mods to give some information about the outcome of a report to the person who made the report? So they can see whether the report has been seen by a mod, been acted on and/or whether the report has been rejected or not. Is the reporter told the outcome of their report? I think not but I'm not sure.

Taking radical over the top measures to limit peoples means of expressing themselves when nothing abusive is tolerated already is now to be seen as "being nice".

This is about censorship plain and simple.

Nobody should be absued for being trans, but that isn't tolerated anyway. We're already being nice. What's is being proposed is that certain people should just be quiet.

And somebody is requiring you to use these terms on boards? I've only ever seen these terms mentioned on the site in relation to ranting about trans people. Your gender identity isn't being invalidated on the site.

I'd be inclined to say the classic rule of don't be a dick should come into play. There's absolutely a cohort of posters who manage to constantly make threads into rants about trans people. There was literally a thread about asexual people that became a rant about transgender people. The only intent with doing **** like that is to denigrate and fear monger rather than a good faith discussion.

What are they? I’m trying to figure out what's going on. What terms actually misgender trans people?