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FI Charts ( T120+ onwards) Winter 2024/2025 **READ MOD NOTE IN FIRST

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 297 ✭✭Thunder87


    2010 surely? Maybe not every square metre of the country had snow but for all intents and purposes it was nationwide. Both Jan and Dec 2010 had nationwide snow from what I remember



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,532 Mod ✭✭✭✭squonk


    Not that I’m aware. I traveled cross country by train around Dec 7 2010. Great snow in the east and until about Athlone. After that it lightened and was non existent in a very cold Galway. We got some snow flurries in Galway in subsequent days but coming south into north Clare was a non event. It would really take something to rest in a complete whiteout here I think.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,329 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    2010 was not good for snow in Galway. Amazing scenes due to the very cold temps with Lough Corrib frozen over but very little snow, if any. We certainly got a lot more in November than we did in 2010.

    This has been a very very memorable snow event for people in the south. Once in a lifetime for many.

    I would guess the last time Ireland got decent snow across the entire country was in 1963. Maybe 1982?

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,546 ✭✭✭munsterlegend


    I remember a lot of snow in 1987 just as we returned to school. That spread from the north so pretty sure it was fairly widespread across the island.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 297 ✭✭Thunder87


    December 2010, maybe not 100% cover but Malin Head to Mizen Head and Belmullet to Rosslare all white right to the coast.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,329 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    It was a very hard frost though in Galway at least. The lawn was pure white for many days. The roads were compacted ice. We had -15 one night. All our pipes froze. I was so jealous of the folks in the east getting snow.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 836 ✭✭✭bazlers


    Awww look at those streamers beating in..magical time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,604 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    2010 was as close to nationwide cover as you will get, but the reality is snow cover is not often nationwide during cold spells- there are always winners and losers. I'd agree that there will be no quick return to cold. It s unfortunate but we often have to go through seven to 10 days of milder weather to get a reload of cold. However people without electricity and tired of the cold spell will be saying that Nacho guy is mad…the milder weather can't come soon enough!

    As for the MJO, there was a good post over on Netweather about the correlation between it and the onset of past cold spells- quite often the mjo was in an unfavourable phase or had just left a favourable phase, yet the cold persisted.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,399 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    We're back to model watching December 2024 style.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,430 ✭✭✭pauldry


    Ya 11th to 25th January will be milder period. I reckon another cold push will come at the end of January.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,239 ✭✭✭Elmer Blooker


    A morale booster if anything

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,399 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    Best scenario we could find ourselves in is high pressure anchored over us next week, warm uppers but possibly inversion with frost and fog.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,604 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Yes. That wouldn't be a bad outcome. I really hope some of the extended outlooks are not right about an Atlantic dominated February, but if you think about the Atlantic it has been quiet overall for much of this winter

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,152 ✭✭✭compsys


    I'd be happy with mild uppers and mild temperatures if there was also some sun.

    I've had enough of fog and dark, dank conditions. We had almost three non-stop weeks of it in November and another week in December.

    It's frustrating that so much of the recent HP systems (which were nowhere to be seen all summer) have delivered so little sun as they don't come around very often.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭Neddyusa


    Interesting that the swipe of the country that stayed greenest in 2010 (Galway to Waterford) probably got the most snow this year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭SeaBreezes


    2010 in Kinsale we got a ninja snow that Nov. Just the old head of kinsale as far as kinsale. Nowhere else. That thawed and all of Ireland went into the freezer and we didnt see a flake of snow.

    I rem reading in mallow (Doneraile) they found reindeer bone in caves indicating Ireland was inhabited and supporting reindeer 33,000 years before they thought. They thought Ireland was an ice sheet at that time. I remember thinking, yep typical. Couldnt get snow in an ice age :) :). Emma was March 2nd. Long winter season yet.. and most got a flurry of snow this year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,239 ✭✭✭Elmer Blooker


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    the whole of Europe (with the exception of Scandinavia) above 1025hpa, remarkable imo



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,067 ✭✭✭Dickie10


    what type of weather would this bring ? would it be mild and dry? is that not the type of weather we should get from st patricks day onwards? really would love a nice march and april this year. even a good dry mild mid march onwards. long long time since that was the case



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,239 ✭✭✭Elmer Blooker


    yes, mild and dry and cloudy, tedious weather unfortunately.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,107 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    It's going to be a long way back from this. Can bin mid-January and more than likely the rest of the month too.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 836 ✭✭✭bazlers


    Ah Kermit come on! Optimism was your strength...



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,399 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    Unfortunately pretty much cross model agreement for something very similar to what Kermit posted, a bit like all that boring muck we had to look at in the run up to Christmas. Unlike cold weather in the winter this stuff is almost certainly most likely to verify. In a week's time I'll be getting bored looking at mild charts so If I say 'I'm taking a break from model watching' the charts should start to become more interesting just like they did a few days before Christmas.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,107 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    There's still hope of change in time for the end of the month I guess...mid month is a write off at least until the 20th. Hopefully something more exciting will emerge in the charts in the next week or so to look forward to. It's pretty depressing looking right now 😕



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,239 ✭✭✭Elmer Blooker


    I would tend to agree with Kermit, we see these limpet highs year in year out, they become established over the Azores, Iberia or Europe, not that it matters where it is as the result is the same, the heart of winter is eaten up.
    I do believe it’s to do with the expansion of the Hadley cell due to the warming climate.

    Want to hear my prediction for winter 25/26?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,537 ✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (430ft asl)


    Ensembles mean does drop toward avrage for the time of year by the end, but the signs are not there for a renewed cold blast in the near future. The NAO goes into positive and the AO into high positive.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,108 ✭✭✭TheMilkyPirate


    Seem to be getting summer charts in winter and winter charts in summer these days



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,604 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    It's looks like the high will be around for a while, alright, and, just as I feared, we could be back to the awful crap we had in December too. I still think it could turn colder towards the end of the month. I would like some more days with frost hanging on the trees all day, but these are harder to get as we go on in February. This is why I always prefer peak winter cold spells.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭Neddyusa


    Would that not be a frosty, foggy HP, inland?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,383 ✭✭✭JanuarySnowstor


    Back to where we were at Christmas.

    A week later we were in a major cold spell



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,239 ✭✭✭Elmer Blooker


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    cold and foggy in southern England but the look of this, many cold spells in the past were preceded by large anticyclones and fog according to many accounts.
    Wheres the Greenland purple blob?



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