The case against average speed cameras

M50 is often at snails space. You could merge at walking space.

I think they get worse over time as well. When my old '98 fiesta showed 75mph on the speedo the sat nav was registering just 108km/h a full 12kmph out

Iv done all that myself speeding and bullshit especially when I was younger. The right conditions has nothing to do with it. I wouldn't say that a speeding driver is even a bad driver but the problem is it leaves very little margin for error especially with the amount of absolutely shocking drivers on the road that are following the speed limit. Just drifinting into lanes and slamming on merging on the motorway at ridiculous slow speeds and so on. A couple of near misses usually slows alot of lads down but for some it can be alot worse than that.

Its simple, would you remain in the right lane if you were overtaking on a single carriage way?
If you wouldnt, then dont do it on the motorway either, move back to lane 1 and then into lane 2 if needed, people merging on to the motorway will be at motorway speeds, so you dont necessarily need to be overtaking them.

"Not tolerate lane hogging" is code for aggressively, tailgate, beep and flash other cars out of the way. Fantastic. That type of behaviour is reflected in Italy's road death statistics which last year were 50% higher than in Ireland.

The yield sign in France, is for the cars on what would otherwise be the main carriageway. You did specifically ask this question in the below post.

Priorite a droite is France's attempt, in certain situations, to put onus on faster cars to slow, rather than underpowered cars to speed up, and is reminiscent of right of way on a ski slope. Makes a lot of sense.

Your original post, and the other which I have quoted below, all too commonly come from drivers who are more concerned about rigidly sticking to (and subsequently quoting) rules of the road, rather than just moving over to accommodate someone else, because "they don't have to".

Given how roads are actually designed, it is completely unrealistic, and in some cases outright impossible, for slower traffic to be able to get up to speed and merge safely onto a motorway in under 50m, following an unsighted, 90° entry road. The only option is to stop dead on the sliproad.

There seems to be this mistaken understanding that "keep left unless overtaking" is a command from God himself, that no other circumstance can ever override it. As an example, I posted a video to the dashcam thread a while back, and I was immediately questioned as to why I moved to the right lane.

Eh, becuase I'd rather not kill a Garda who might trip and fall in front of me. But hey, if the RSA weren't arsed putting good practice onto paper, why should I take it upon myself to accomdate anyone else?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121235555/#Comment_121235555

Do you really believe that drivers should keep left for example where a Garda is standing to the right side of a vehicle in the hard shoulder, or when they see another car joining from a clearly short slip road?

Other countries, with functioning governments, have thought this through, and decided that move-over laws are valuable for everyone's safety

• France
• UK
• USA

Funny thing about the speeding van is that he was probably well aware of the average speed check just 10km up the road, so was going extra fast here to try and save some time.

Speeders in Asia? Average drive zones? Which Asian countries?

Speeders in Asia are known as killers or even sleeping or just stupid. But speed cameras,where?

Seriously if you're equating driving in the rhl of a 2 lane road to that of a motorway you need to put your head in a cold bucket of water and hit the reset button.

On Your (b) point - we're not doing the theory test here. We're dealing with the real world and real people, so what should happen is just pie in the sky. What's important is reacting to what going on outside not shaking your fist at the outside world from inside your perfect world while quoting the rotr

Forgive me father, I have sinned, in accordance with the scripture of the theoretical world. I probably will burn in RSA hell. Christ almighty ....."awesome attitude" 😇

but remember that even the best racing drivers, driving in controlled conditions, crash!

What have racing drivers on a open/closed circuit got to do with road users?

You can be driving at 100mph and not racing anyone, no?