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The Dominance of Dublin GAA *Mod warning post#1*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,034 ✭✭✭Yeah Right


    Are you on drugs?

    I never said you cared about Kerry. I never made any claims with regards to you having sleepless nights over them winning. What was that about being paranoid, again?

    I'm pointing out your blatant hypocrisy, bad-faith arguing and moving of the goalposts to try to paper over the fact that your entire argument has been shown to be worthless.

    You said Leinster is dead because the Dubs won 14 in a row.

    You don't think Munster is dead, even though Kerry won 12 out of 14 in the same timeframe.

    That means either 13 out of 14 is the magical number for deciding that a province is dead, or you're just bitter about the Dubs. If it were the former, we'd have heard about it for now. So it must be the latter.

    When this was pointed out to you, you changed your argument to one about funding, not about one team dominating a province as you originally claimed, but which you abandoned when you realised Kerry were dominating their province almost as much of the Dubs. GTFO of here with that nonsense.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 35,100 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    Mod Note

    And so it has come to pass. The thread had gone fairly quiet but I do believe we are going around in the Very Same Circles that others have gone round in before. Literally the same arguement and counter arguement.

    With that in mind I am now closing this thread and any such conversation/arguement Should Not Be Brought into another thread.

    The topic is only for this thread !!!

    I will open it again following the final for a week or two to see if there's anything new to add.

    Post edited by ShamoBuc on


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 35,100 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    Mod

    As the final is now over, the Thread is open again - probably for a short period of time as it will no doubt circle around the usual posters repeating the usual posts that get them into trouble.

    Use the Ignore feature if needed and be civil would be two ideas to keep in mind.

    Post edited by ShamoBuc on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,346 ✭✭✭gaffer91


    Dark days for inter-county GAA. We've seen a general reduction in supporter interest, in part due to the dour, negative style of play that Dublin introduced and perfected under Jim Gavin (endless handpassing, slow buildups, only taking high percentage shots, no high fielding, 15 men behind the ball often) becoming the dominant style of play. Nothing illegal about this, it's on the GAA to change it, but it's not good to watch. Probably was a good thing that Armagh won as while they do employ this style as well, they're among the less defensive of teams nowadays.

    We also saw the complete collapse of interest in Leinster in particular, once a great competition. There are issues with Provincials in general but no Province has seen such a marked decline as Leinster in interest and supporter (and potentially player) participation. This of course relates mostly to what has already been discussed on this thread.

    Dublin may have lost by a point at home vs Galway, for which Dessie Farrell should be very ashamed, but none of the fundamental issues have been fixed. The GAA probably rue the day they made the decision to give Dublin alone all that additional funding and use Croke Park as a home pitch for the NFL as well, in the context of other very pronounced advantages. It's caused terrible damage to the inter-county game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 267 ✭✭Trey13


    There are just too many games in quick succession to get a full buy in. I remember going to Leinster games in the late 00s/early 10s and there was a great sense of occasion. You'd have a game at the start of June, end of June and then beginning of July. That just doesn't exist anymore with pointless games every week.

    I went to a handful of Dublin NFL games and to be honest I enjoy them more than Championship. While that sense of occasion isn't there, at least there are new faces, a sense of jeopardy, and generally just two high quality teams.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 213 ✭✭jack67


    Strange how this anti Dublin nonsense is allowed to go on from this obsessed poster ! And lets be clear it is 100% anti Dublin , designed to get a reaction , no point in reporting as it is a waste of time , as the obsessed anti Dublin poster appears to be allowed to post this nonsense time and time again .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,346 ✭✭✭gaffer91


    That's probably all true. And there are issues with Provincial Championships generally. But given the GAA seem determined to keep them, even if they spaced out the games a bit more, it wouldn't make any difference to the disaster zone that is the Leinster Championship. Interest and attendances will continue to crater. The main issue there is that people know Dublin will walk it every year, which they do and have done every year since 2011. It's beyond a joke by this stage, Leinster used to be a fantastic tournament and the GAA have allowed it to be utterly destroyed by favouring Dublin alone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 933 ✭✭✭ledwithhedwith


    I presume you are talking about Munster as well?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,889 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Wow, what a rewriting of history.

    Donegal were the team to ruin football, that is known.

    For the last decade, Dublin have been the only team to play football of the highest quality. All other teams, including Kerry have resorted to negative play to try and beat them.

    I was disappointed that Galway didn't win the All-Ireland. They were the first team in a decade to beat Dublin playing proper football. Yes, they got some help from the ref, but for once, I left Croke Park thinking that a footballing team had fairly beaten Dublin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭dunnerc


    Nope Munster is fine , Kerry winning 85 Munster titles and winning something like 14 out of the last 16 Munster titles tis grand like , all that poster can see is Dublin 🙄



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,904 ✭✭✭Did you smash it




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭dunnerc




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,904 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    I don’t know how you people can constant throw the same points at each other for years. It’s just incredible how ye can’t call it a draw and move on.

    I know discussion forums are an open platform to discuss whatever but it’s incredibly futile.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 359 ✭✭Charlo30


    Pretty much. The same arguments and counter arguments have been done to death at this stage. I dont really think there is anything new that can be added. But no doubt the same couple of posters will go at it until the thread is locked again



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭dunnerc


    Well actually its the same poster keeps bringing up the same nonsense over and over again !



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,904 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    no it’s not, it’s a couple of you rehashing the same BS to each other again and again and again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭dunnerc


    Maybe have a look above at who brought the same argument up again ! the same guy who brought it up in the 2024 football thread , when this one was closed !



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭dunnerc


    Again its the same poster who keeps bringing it up again ! its there in front of you .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 359 ✭✭Charlo30


    Yes. They did. But there is a pair of you in it. You keep responding. They keep replying. And the thread keeps going around in circles and then gets locked



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,904 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    And you’ll be bring up the same argument in response ; “what about Munster?”…just agree to disagree and move on



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭dunnerc


    Have moved on many times , but the Dublin basher keeps coming back with the same nonsense in this thread and when this thread is shut down, brings it up again in another GAA thread .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,904 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    man on internet in “I am not to blame, the other guy is” claim shocker



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 359 ✭✭Charlo30


    Its obvious that the poster is trying to goad Dublin supporters. The mods recognized that on another thread. By constantly replying you are feeding them. Just put them on ignore.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭dunnerc


    You see what you want to see , 14 years of Dublin bashing is a fact !



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,904 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    how many years of what about Kerry and Munster have you racked up?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭dunnerc


    Yep agreed they did recognise it on another thread and he brought it straight back up on this thread, i always thought trolling/goading is not allowed , if the goading was stopped there would be no feeding them ,how it is allowed to continue is the question



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭dunnerc




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,346 ✭✭✭gaffer91


    That's a complete misrepresentation- I've repeatedly said that none of these issues (Dublin's dour, negative style, funding, playing at home etc) are Dublin's fault. The blame lies with the GAA. And what I've proposed to address things helps Dublin. So it's not "anti-Dublin" in any way whatsoever. There is nothing reportable in my posts either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,346 ✭✭✭gaffer91


    No, if you read it, that post was just talking about Leinster and the complete but completely predictable collapse in interest and attendances in that competition this year as Dublin walked to another consecutive victory with no real competition and no capacity for teams to compete into the future. It's beyond a joke at this stage. It was once a highly entertaining competition and it's completely collapsed.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,346 ✭✭✭gaffer91


    Donegal played defensively in 2011, for sure, but while still defensive, they played more attractive football from 2012 to 2014. Whereas the dour, negative style I mentioned in my post was introduced and perfected by Dublin in the latter part of Jim Gavin's tenure. Nothing illegal about it, and if it wins matches within the rules, more power to the team. But it was awful to watch so it definitely wasn't of the highest quality. And other teams have now copied it. It's up to the GAA to change the rules to bring some spectacle to the game we all love.

    Dublin have been beaten fairly repeatedly in recent years- this year, 2022, 2021. Whereas they have never won fairly. In a general sense, because their victories have come off a platform of unfair advantages in population, funding, playing at home etc. In a more specific sense too, they've been on the beneficial end of some extremely questionable refereeing decisions too, particularly in the last decade vs Mayo. I suppose that comes with home advantage though ultimately so can probably be bundled in under that category of unfair advantage. In the final too, while Armagh were undoubtedly defensive, at least they attacked with some pace. Galway were content to handpass around the 45 so can't exactly call it a good spectacle, as with Dublin.



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