2024 Irish EV Sales

Ok so what range would the kona you linked have in our typical winter at 120kph.
Is the EV database speed based off 120kph?

origin and destination in most cases would be close enough to motorway/national road exits.

As previously mentioned public charging would be a no no for me until the infrastructure improves.

They base the highway speed at 110kph.

But the real problem here isn't the range, it's the misapprehension about the public charging infrastructure. If you're travelling mostly on motorways, there are multiple options available to you. And it's not as if it's even a mystery. Most of the apps let you know in real time what the availability is.

Here's Kinnegad Plaza right now. Four units free and another 1 nearby.

It's not a comprehension problem on my part. I already coined a word to describe your phobia.

You say it's because you don't trust the infrastructure, but when I show you it's well capable of managing the load, you're back to 350-400km without stopping. Yawn.

Maybe you should get your story straight

As previously mentioned public charging would be a no no for me until the infrastructure improves.

This is so boring. Round and round in circles. Why are you actually here?

Anyway, that's enough for me. Bye.

what does improved infrastructure look like in your mind?

I'm the same. cost of fuel was secondary to other issues. To the point I've not bothered changing my electricity plan yet. Only use the ICE when the EV isn't available.

I didnt say charging, I said changing.. As in changing from ICE to EV. If you cant home charge then EV is not for you in my opinion so as I said thats not difficult to work out for me. I have little to no interest in the green aspect of things, dont buy into it one bit, just think of EV as a fuel source and weighed up the pros and cons in the same way I would weigh up the pros and cons of a petrol car versus diesel. For instance I also own a Van and Racecar and dont want either of those to be Electric as wouldnt feel it would work for me. There seems to be an assumption by some people on here that all EV drivers are greenies, not the case for all of us so I have no interest in taxing anything, I pay enough of my fair share already.

Thanks elm that’s good advice.
In the case of that kona that brings the range down to about 234kms max before having to find a fast charger to get home.

That's nuts. The EV database uses -10 degrees for its winter figures. We get that once every ten years for about a week.

Friend of mine has a Kona since 2019. He's got as much as 450 out of it in the summer and averages about 425. In the winter he says 20% loss on summer range is an accurate estimate.

But it's no use to somebody who suffers from communisrepleophobia. 😁

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Did you include having to get into your car and drive there and then drive back home vs 10seconds to plug in at home. All that effort for a measly 500km of range. At least with the self service (only ever seen one of these in Ireland) you wouldn't have to take the kids out of the car seats and put them back in after queing in the shop.

Interesting, so it's in its way infancy.

Cars are mandated for all new chargers. Which loads will be left with nothing unless retrofitted (which is unlikely). Hence Tesla's SuC with no payment whatsoever wins for years to come. It's gonna be years before the rest of the lot come close to it in terms of UX if it depends on the CPOs & legacy auto tocooperate and nothing is mandated by law. Maybe something will be agreed on the EU level just like cards and AFIR.

And yes, clutching at straws is where we're at now on the adoption curve. The next phase (early majority) is going to be much more difficult than the previous one. You don't want to keep any straws to clutch if you want to progress this case as the government or the carmaker. Yet a lot of straws are left in the place.

100% this. Nobody posts about 'oh yeah I've got a juicy enjoyable charging experience'.

Plus confirmation bias. If you're looking for horror stories you'll surely find them.

Read the ecars charger thread.
Plenty of people giving out about the charging infrastructure.

I have no experience with that specific car (other than sitting in one and deciding the back was only fit for legless people), but my 10% less than the ev database worst case model has held true for me across several EVs from different companies.

There's no point telling someone it will do X km when in reality it won't without managing the range or slowing down. I drive at 120+vat on the motorway as I want to get where I'm going quick as possible. No time for pootling at 110 or less to save range. If I was going to do that I'd charge en route or better yet take one of my classics.