World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH) Files

No one is giving children abuse. Please point out the abuse in the post you are referencing because I don't see any? Saying or even just having the opinion that a medical practice is unethical and wrong isn't abuse. Its past time this nonsense of "no debate" and labelling any dissent as abuse and violence stopped. It doesn't work anymore. The cass report confirms what many on here and elsewhere have been saying for years now.

What's actually abuse is giving experimental treatments to children which result in infertility and long term detrimental physical and mental effects, when for the majority they didn't even need it in the first place. Yet another study has shown that most kids grow out of gender dysphoria and questioning. We are sitting on a timebomb of damaged and angry adults who were set on this path unnecessarily. The floodgates will open soon and the lawsuits and backtracking will start.

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-024-02817-5

A large part of the reason children who are social transitioning suffer psychological harm is because there are plenty of people who tell then that everyone who has gender incongruence requires serious psychiatric and psychological help because what they are feeling about gender identity is "mythical". People with those opinions don't care about the health and wellbeing of children.

I don't think anyone is saying that what gender questioning children are feeling is mythical. They are saying the education curriculum is teaching the myth that these feelings are necessarily permanent and can't be questioned or probed.

One of the extraordinary things about the Cass report was the lack of co-operation from all the adult gender clinics (bar one) to provide the data that might have helped clarify that exact point. Cass described their refusal as "ideological", which doesn't sound to me like they have the health and wellbeing of children at heart.

Since I've never given any child abuse for any reason, no, I haven't. That would be a very stupid thing to consider.

What are you you on about? Did I say she did? Please quote where I said that. Thanks

I was talking about the psychological harms from social transitioning and how Dr Cass doesn't ascribe them as coming from what that poster claimed

Clearly, for a small number of (adult) people,medical transition is the right choice. A small number. Nowhere near the amount of kids who are currently being set on this path, based on little more than teen angst, confusion about their sexuality and what toys they like to play with. Questioning this is not abuse.

I wish I thought it weird. Ten years ago I might have, but I've become much more jaded about political influences since then.

Perhaps the worst thing is that there's not a single thing in the Cass Review that we didn't already know; that anyone who cared to look couldn't have known very easily.

To see people who spent the last few years turning away as a gun was slowly loaded, aimed at children and young people, the trigger slowly squeezed… now decide they simply cannot stand by any more because this particular smoking gun has been pointed to by someone credentialed and eminent enough that they cannot ignore it…. well. I'm not a very forgiving person anyway, so I won't say what I think of them and what should happen to them, other than to say that the first criminal investigation into practitioners of "affirmation-only" medical care for children who are gender confused started in Florence, Italy this week - and I think that's a good thing, long overdue.

Another straw man. No one here is blanket saying that "gender reassignment surgery is an inappropriate treatment".

It shouldn't be appropriate for kids, and in this the cass report does agree.

So why do you keep bringing it up on relation to this current discussion about children then? Trying to muddy the waters.

social transition, puberty blockers and cross sex hormones is path to that treatment and is not harmless, or reversible, a fact that is far from what the lies activists like to spread. Luckily it looks like this will be stopped now, therefore preventing the needless maiming of many children. Who would be upset that kids aren't won't be needlessly physically and mentally harmed? If they are adults and still feel the same then go ahead. All evidence points to the fact that for the majority of gender questioning kids this won't be the case and they will be happy in their bodies.

Also, teenage girls have had their breast removed by the NHS due to gender dysphoria so it's even a lie to say surgery isnt offered