Clean Air/Congestion Charging set to be introduced by 2030

You mean leave the roads free for people who can afford it while people who can't are priced off the roads?

I live near enough in Cork city and it's still a mess. Not reliable at all. I can only imagine others further out.

"an average is correct" no it's not

I picked the Golf v eGolf as an example to show how wrong you are in terms of "twice the weight". Also gave an example of the new ID.3.

Now you can run around for another few posts without admitting you are wrong but I have zero interest. So bang away

Exactly as the Green's want it.

Ah yes complaining about having no options in a city. Make sense.

Makes me laugh when I see a post about the "Motoring poor"….

Back in the day(even 25 years ago) if your family had a car you were seen as being well off, and most of us who didn't have a car walked/cycled or got the bus to where you wanted to go… Now you're poor if you have a car??

I call B.S on the "poor worker" example…..

I don't see a vast cohort of shop workers/minimum wage workers in city centres who have access to free car-parking so one would assume that private car parks are being used and for quick example that's €200 a month in Cork city, add in the cost of running a car, insurance, tax, NCT, Fuel, say another €400 in monthly payments… so in reality how many of these workers after paying €600 a month for the privilege of a private carriage into their minimum wage job is there? Very very few if any! Apart from the fact that there's a large number of people who have come from abroad to work in these low paying jobs that don't have the cash to purchase a private car and a place to park it at home or have passed a driving test…

If we don't want cycle lanes with bollards, then we need drivers to respect basic traffic markings and not park on cycle lanes and footpaths.

100% agree with you, I would NEVER park in a cycle lane or on a footpath or stop in a yellow box. I think people just have a park it anywhere attitude and the quality of driving on Irish roads is crap. I still don't understand why they don't lift cars? It would be an incredible deterrent and a money maker

On the traffic survey numbers, how many people would need to be involved in faking the results of a survey like this? Do you not think that any one of the five or ten people that would be involved would leak the fact of any faked survey to the press or to the Ditch or whoever?

No one cares enough. And even if you did win and prove your point nothing would be done. Someone high up (Probably not an elected person) decided cycle lanes are happening. Same way someone decided to rip up the train and tram lines years ago cause Cars and Buses were happening.

Maybe I'll go out there one morning and count them myself, I guarantee no one would give a sh*t and more likely I'd be ridiculed for doing it, or be told I faked the results.

I've a 2015 car that is given me no problems and gets me to and from work. It's not just about me. In all areas we've got taxes being imposed on people and for people who are well off it's no problem, but other people with less money and just making ends meet are being punished harder.

Eamon Ryan wants us to grow salads in our houses, in our windows, but there's people out there who don't even have houses but just a tiny box room. We have EU laws coming in that want to put up airfares because people are getting a cheap Ryanair flight out of this dump of a place to relax and not be ripped off for a few days in the sun.

Private jets are going to be exempt for the wealthy who fly around for stuff they can do over zoom or to visit a special sporting event. The less well off is the cause and not the massive corporations or rich people. The green party is all taxes, which is not going to save the planet.

I'm complaining about taxes on people is not always the answer. You're only hurting people who already have less in society. I live in the city and the transport is ****, I can only imagine the people outside in the middle of nowhere. Turniphead in the Green party would have you walk into the cities.

It still sounds like you just want others to support your expensive, and driving habits. They can breath in your exhaust fumes while their public transport carrying 80 people in one go is delayed by giving priority, your personal transport carrying one person.

Yea I still think the "Motoring Poor" is complete Bull… Apart from that, how sustainable is having a fleet of old bangers clogging up City streets? The answer is it's not..

As for your other comment "sorting out public transport" …Pure hyperbole!!

Dublin Bus has 136 routes going through the city, add in Luas, Dart, Suburban rail, private bus companies just how much more "sorting out" would you like? Answer: by reducing the numbers of private vehicles' in the core city centre which are causing delays for public transport then it becomes more efficient…

If you want to drive your private vehicle through the city centre streets then no one is stopping you..you're on the wrong crusade here.

I'll tell you what, Since you don't mind paying for these extra charges, you can cover mine as well. I need my car to get to work on time, Buses are unreliable at the minute and waiting for them, you'd nearly be waiting an hour. Fix public transport first. All the taxes we pay aren't going to save the planet.

Do you think all these extra climate taxes are going to save the planet? When you've got massive countries and corporations putting out so much, it makes Ireland insignificant. I want to get to work and on time. Leo wants us all to get up in the morning, then let him and the government put some of this supposed "Wealth" to work and build up our infrastructure and public transport BEFORE these charges are brought in. After that, most people won't mind. At the minute it's just another poor tax, and it's not going to save the planet.

Edit: In case you haven't seen

So you need a car to get to work on time due to congestion, caused by cars.

Your solution to that problem is to encourage more cars.

Good luck with that.