Referendum on Gender Equality (THREADBANS IN OP)

Of course the 'opposition' parties are in a bit of a bind as they sheepishly rowed in behind these proposals. But really they should be going for the jugulars on this matter and demanding resignations.

Which is exactly what she has said.

It really is shocking that someone could be out campaigning for something before they even understand what it is. She may well have won a few Yes votes for it.

What a dangerous fool.

Ah I can't say that I follow Gript. That's how we missed that.

The Supreme Court are responsible for defining the Constitution, no one else. It will always be the Supreme Court who will decide. Hence the reason we still have cases coning before the Supreme court where they are required to define and interperpret the Constitution. And of course it applies to single parents, I have no idea why you think it wouldn't have been

No one will ever truly know the outcome of a Constitutional change of this nature, there's always going be an element of uncertainty. The same way there is an element of uncertainty with lots of things in life.

"Accused people" lol, it's not a crime to be religious. I think you need to stop projecting. There's nothing wrong with being religious and nothing wrong with not understanding something. The amount of people now jumping on the Aontu bandwagon following the result says a lot tbh. But yes, like marraige and family are.ovviously completely unrelated to religion....

If people keep quoting me I'm going to give them the decency of a response.

I never claimed they are nitwits, again, I think maybe you are projecting here. No one knows everything, that's a fact of life. Leo was completely right when he said a big issue was that people didn't understand the words of the proposal. I was surprised that got such an outraged response. The people coming on claiming that was never the case was just lol.

Not pushed what Lisa Chambers opinion is, I have no time for some who isn't willing to commit to the courage of their convictions. I feel embarrassed for her and Willie O'Dea coming out with this after the fact. Do you think she would have said she voted no if it was two Yes? We all know the answer to that.

National Women's Council have gone missing.

Absolute joke of an organisation for a long time.

She said AG advice was not released to her or any other party members.... hmmmmmmmm

There is snakes in the building.

I don’t understand what Rodders means when he says “progressive group”.

Looks like little 'Princess woke' (Holly C) has gone to ground too - She's been stage managed to within an inch of her life these days.

If you think the Greens were the little tail wagging the big Govt dog (and they were), wait and see what the SDs would be like if they became the king makers - They must never get that chance.

I am content that I know what a durable relationship. I'm also content to leave the house tomorrow and not get killed. But there's a level of uncertainty to that though, its not a guarantee. Plenty of people leave there house thinking they'll come back that evening, and everyday people don't. That life, that's a risk we take. Also, anytime anyone goes to court there's uncertainty, you can have the strongest, best case in the world but there's always a risk when someone else is making that decision.

More importantly, I'm far more content to let the some of the most knowledgeable and gifted legal experts in Ireland have the final say on what durable relationship means rather than a bunch of TDs do it. The Supreme Court have always done a fantastic job protecting the citizens of Ireland from the State and have always done their best to drag the State away from the bussom of the Catholic church, I have huge respect for it as an institution.

Who is saying durable relationship doesn't apply to single parents?

There are lots of reasons many sane people voted no, I've never claimed otherwise.

So what is a durable relationship and how can you be so certain that is what it is if more knowledgeable people than any of us have yet to rule on it or indeed if single parents will fall under this ruling?

You continue to bring 'uncertainty' into it, the irony.

I don't have any views on the sanity or otherwise of religious people and again, don't get the relevance

Are we to take from that, that the bould Rod is spreading Fake Nooz?

Given your own understanding of the term, surely you can see from that understanding why a single parent family may not fall under it....

But sure lookit so long as you are certain of how the law works, us mere plebs can continue to worry about increased uncertainty.

This is so spot on. This woke stuff that we have all been subjected to over the past couple of years is just downright ridiculous. Let’s hope this referendum result opens the eyes of our politicians that the vast vast majority (typically silent) have no interest in woke bullsh*t. I actually think there is an opening for a possible new party to step in and claim this huge vote if the incumbent continue to ignore.

I see the latest is Varadkar attacking Lisa chambers over her supposed No vote. Despite campaigning for the yes side. Hard to believe this “government” can last much longer

Ditto! I think SF will be a busted flush after the next election. I admit that I don't say that with a high level of confidence but I have a gut feeling that something is changing. SF and the SNP should by now be waking up to the fact that you can't be a nationalist party and swallow the ideological guff coming from the US universities. The nation is a grass roots concept that is built on the nuclear family. The idea that you can replace it with some top down ideology is a fools errand.