The Dominance of Dublin GAA *Mod warning post#1*

You posted a whole pile of meandering shite that had NOTHING to do with the question. Nothing. The status quo has nothing to do with their chances in the scenario posted, which was a hypothetical based on the status quo changing. You deliberately tried to muddy the waters by prefacing your answer with a wghole host of irrelevant crap. I specifically asked you to answer 1, 2 or 3, which you eventually attempted to do, but made a complete balls of it.

You've said they would go to 90/1. You didn't elaborate on that at all, you just said they'd go to 90/1 without any justification or rationale behind it. You're literally just picking the option which says you were right but not giving anything to back it up.

So here's another question for you to avoid. Why do you think their chances would improve? Why is it more likely for them to get out of Connaught if there are more teams in Leinster? The overall competition has no bearings on this, now, remember? this is just Connaught. Why would more Dublin teams mean either have better chances at getting out of the provincial Championship, please?

So, as you can see, you HAVEN'T answered it, not really. You just picked an answer because that's the one you want it to be.

I've already comprehensively addressed this but happy to do so again. First of all, thanks for accepting that you lied when you falsely claimed I hadn't answered this question, we are making progress! The preamble to my answer was highly relevant- it justified the argument as to why things would improve for Leitrim after a split. The elaboration is at the beginning, not at the end and the argument is logical, consistent and overwhelming as to why splitting Dublin helps Leitrim.

Again, you should take some time to reflect on how not splitting Dublin harms Leitrim- Dublin winning off of a platform of unfair advantages is intrinsically bad from a fairness perspective but it's also killing interest in the GAA. You refuse to engage with what happens if there is not a split- this is far worse for Leitrim and everyone else.

Leitrim's chances would improve as the prestige, integrity and fairness of the competition are enhanced following a split, for the reasons already given. To put it simply: Dublin continuing to be unfairly advantaged off a platform of unfair advantages => devastating for the competition, and may even kill it as a competitive interest (see the Leinster championship); Splitting Dublin to disperse their advantages and make everything more fair => very beneficial for all counties who compete, which of course includes Leitrim! As the provincials are a part of the overall All-Ireland, it helps this competition too. Without splitting Dublin, as competition and interest declines, less players take part, the competition may even stop eventually which makes it far less likely that Leitrim will get out of Connaught.

Please try to grapple with the issues this time! I know you don't like it but if I have previously answered a question which you then refuse to engage with, I will direct you to my previous response.

You didn't explain why. That's exactly the point. You just vomited up a whole pile of word salad, picked 90/1 and never explained your reasoning.

The number of teams playing in Leinster has nothing to do with a team's chances of making it out of Connaught.

You know this. Everyone does. You won't admit it, though, you're trying to claim black is white.

You might as well be trying to claim that Luke Littler's 9-darter the other day means Man City will find it harder to win the Champion's League. They are two separate competitions with zero correlation. You just picked the answer that you want to be true.

As I said. A Fraud. A charlatan even.

Please read my previous and subsequent posts. I have explained repeatedly why splitting Dublin helps Leitrim (and not just Leitrim, but all counties): intrinsically from a fairness perspective, helps them get out of Connaught, helps them compete in the All-Ireland, helps them in both the short and particularly the long-term.

You have yet to explain how leaving Dublin intact as a single entity and winning off a platform of unique unfair advantages helps Leitrim though! Which is the other side of this whole debate. Again, you are projecting, it's funny at times but very transparent.

I have read it. I've read all of them.

They don't make sense, so I asked you to elaborate.

I'm asking you to elaborate because you keep dodging the fcuking question, referring others to your previous answers, even thoguh the previous answers either a) don't answer the fcuking question either or b) consist of more "read my previous answers". You've done it again right now, with this post I'm quoting. ALL THE WHILE CLAIMING THAT YOU'RE NOT DODGNG QUESTIONS.

I never claimed that not splitting Dublin helps Leitrim. You're asking me to defend a position I never held.

You DID claim that splitting them helps Leitrim. So far, you've provided nothing of substance to back it up.

Can you see the difference?

You haven't read them properly or you have to re-read them to fully understand the message- as we saw with your false claims that I hadn't answered your question, which you now accept. If I have answered the question previously, I will refer you to that old answer (in fact, you can even refer to my old answers where I've previously said this!)

You failed to answer how not splitting Dublin helps Leitrim. I've asked you repeatedly and have even comprehensively addressed your repetitive questions, providing overwhelming evidence as to why splitting Dublin helps all counties (and by extension Leitrim). It's fair that you reciprocate now.

But Kerry are not winning fairly , if they were i wouldn't mind , what i am proposing is helping every County , Kerry will benefit greatly from a split , there unfair status has gone on for over 100 years winning 84 Munster titles and 38 All IRELANDS, and it has to stop for the good of the GAA

Splitting Kerry will improve Waterford Limerick Clare and Tipp in Munster ,it would also help the weaker Counties Leitrim Longford Carlow , not forgetting the Ulster Counties coming out battered and bruised after the Ulster championship injuries from extra hard competitive games etc and then having to meet a fresh Kerry winning another Munster title in first gear , 84 Munster titles and 38 All Irelands don't lie , this over 100 year advantage Kerry have had has got to stop a split needs to happen , for the good of the GAA .

I have read them multiple times and they don't make any sense.

I've asked you follow up questions to fill in the gaps and you keep referring me to the previous answers that had the gaps in the first place. This is like arguing with a person with special needs. I suspect you are doing this on purpose to get a rise out of people.

First of all, I never said not splitting Dublin helps them. I said the opposite is true, splitting Dublin will HARM their chances, which is a different point altogether but I wouldn't expect someone who's demonstrated your atrocious level of mental acuity to understand something so complex as logical arguments. So I have already answered that question, but..........unlike yourself though, I'm going to repeat what I've said instead of trying to obfuscate matters and drag everything off topic. Here it is in simple terms, seeing as that's what we've been reduced to.

• With the way the setup is currently, Leitrim have X number of teams in the competition who are better than them.
• If you split Dublin into four, there are now X+4 teams in the competition who are better than them.
• It is harder to beat a pool of X+4 teams than it is to beat a pool of X number teams.
• Therefore, they now have a harder time to make it into the latter stages than if there was only 1 Dublin team.
• More teams, especially more teams that are better than you, means there's less chance of you making it through a particular round.
• QED, bitches.

Refute that, if you can.

A team winning unfairly and dominating in Munster, the All-Ireland is terribly destructive to the competition. This is the status quo. As the provincials ultimately feed into the All-Ireland, taking steps to reduce this unfairness, such as by splitting Kerry, helps teams competing in the provinces and in the All-Ireland too, which the provincials feed into. Competitiveness and interest will increase as the unfairness declines, just as they decrease as the unfairness increases

Fixed that for you 👍️

Yes it's harder to win a competition when a County is advantaged over practically every other County , Kerry is that County 84 Munster titles in a hurling province handy entrance into the all Ireland for nearly a Century winning 38 All Irelands unfairly has to stop , Kerry has to be split to level the playing field .

You also need to look up the word refute, because you've said it's easily done but then failed to do it.

100% agreed , it really is time to close down this farce of a thread .

I've already addeessed this many time but I'm happy to do so again. But I can't admit something that is not true! Absolutely splitting Dublin helps Leitrim both in their All-Ireland endeavours and in their attempts to get out of Connaught, for the reasons I've already provided multiple times. I'm asking you what happens if they don't split them and we've seen how it would be utterly catastrophic for the GAA (which is another reason why splitting them helps all counties). And you did lie, when you said I didn't question about the odds change. You then retracted that to be fair but now seem to be retracting your retraction so it's a double lie!

Splitting Dublin enhances the prestige, integrity and fairness of the competition (increasing interest and participation, and getting the GAA out of its downward slump), then all teams will become more competitive, including Leitrim (kind of an inverse of what has happened in Leinster). As Connaught feeds into the All-Ireland, these benefits apply there too so this definitely WILL increase Leitrim's chances of making the AI-series, plus enhance their chances of success when they reach there (hence the reduction of odds to 90/1 in the question I previously addressed).

And of course Dublin being split is relevant! We have to consider the consequences to the GAA if it isn't and the extremely negative impact that will have to the game and all counties who participate, including Leitrim. Attendances and interest dropping, the morale issue from one team alone being unfairly advantaged over all others and then frequently winning on that basis- it's a real pickle the GAA has got itself into by its Dublin favourtism.

Splitting Kerry would enhance the fairness and the integrity of the game , the unfairness they have over practically every other County cannot allowed to be continued