The Dominance of Dublin GAA *Mod warning post#1*

I'll give you a concrete example of the disparity between Dublin and other counties during their golden period. In 2015 Kildare had 4 games promotion officers for the entire county (around 1 per 10 clubs), split across a wide geographical area. In the same period, Dublin had 54 games development personnel - each assigned to a specific club. This included 14 specific club coaches. These were all subsidised by the GAA in a scheme not open to the rest of the country. Double standards.

Leaving out all the other parts and pillars to Dublins success - the average Dublin player availed of far more frequent, professional coaching than was available to other counties.

No bitterness, just a desire to do what is best for the GAA (including Dublin) and every county participating in the All-Ireland. I'm glad you acknowledge the importance of funding in achieving desired results though- this is another way Dublin are unfairly advantaged over everyone else. I also think Limerick's funding is very unfair but it's still not a patch on Dublin's in recent decades, plus Dublin play at home, plus Dublin have a massive population advantage. So while what happened with Limerick is bad, with Dublin it is far, far worse for the GAA.

It is bitterness for sure , Cork Kerry Galway are unfairly advantaged both in population and funding over Leitrim Longford Carlow

What County are you from/ support ?

Its best you stop wasting your time , 14 years of bitterness 🙄🙄Dublin players are 1 County only but sure keep trying for another 14 years tis great crack so it is .

That is a false narrative. For a start Dublin have negative economies of scale that Meath never have to suffer that comes with being the capital. Numbers of clubs, rent, cost of living, available space, cost of building in Dublin, competition from other sports that rural ireland to not have to content with to the same extent.

I don't want to repeat myself but for instance it was not financially feasible for Dublin to get a centre of excellence, meanwhile Meath have had one before Dublin. Tyrone had one etc, Kerry as well - the price of the land alone Dublin were going to build on approx 7m in the spawell, was the same cost that Tyrone built their whole centre of excellence for. That says it all to me.

Also players from all over the country gravitate to Dublin, they take Dublin spots at clubs, it is gradually becoming more fashionable for country lads working in Dublin to stay playing in Dublin. Handier, higher standard of play than their 'home' county.

The fact you spin simplicitic narratives (STILL) means you do not understand the issues Dublin GAA has to face, do you know the GAA wastelands in Dublin. There are areas with massive populations on the other hand with too few clubs. Non Dublin teams never have this issue, or being 'invaded' by players from other counties.

The narrative that a pot of gold saved Dublin and crushed other counties is like something a primary school student would come up. The issues are far more complex than you like to pretend for Dublin. And the fact that there is STILL a meath poster on this thread who is constantly whinging about Dublin. But has never looked at the problems Meath created themselves. Throwing money at Meath won't help they have to rebuild because of years of neglect and metaphorically and literally taking their eye off the ball. There is no way that Meath should be struggling against Westmwath, Carlow and Wicklow etc. A nice size county not far way from Dublin etc.

The fact is the former dominance of Dublin had as much to do with the the inept running of former traditional counties such as Meath, the antiquated provincial structure, and Dublin doing over 20 years long term planning from the bottom up as well.

In reality I can understand why the Meath supporter is annoyed it is embarrassing for him. Plus I assume he is of an age that he cannot even remember when Meath were top dogs. Plus everyone loves a pantomime villain, especially a whining meathman.

It will be interesting to see how clubs counties spend JP McManus million euros. Will it show improvement in 5-10 years time at county level. I would argue that depends on a myriad of variables and there is no doubt some will waste it, and a few will maximise it to the hilt.

I also have umpteen posts above ref Leitrim Longford Carlow etc can't compete with Dublin Galway Kerry etc why don't you address one of those ?

The Dublin's Kerry's Mayo's Tyrone's Corks etc want for nothing in regards to funding etc , but what about the Leitrim's Longford's Carlow's do they not matter ?

Wow. There’s so much incorrect here, its hard hard to know where to start.

Dublin have negative economies of scale? You are aware that some Dublin clubs would have more U6s than entire clubs have at all age grades in other counties. I know a local club here operating off 110 juvenile kids. A colleague from Dublin used to talk about their club having 120 U6s training. All of those are paying membership.

Do Dublin really need a centre of excellence given the level of facility available in the county? Again, this can’t be changed and I’m not complaining about it (you brought it up) but counties like my own actually use facilities like Abbotstown which are openly available to Dublin. Then there’s college facilities like DCU too and other gyms too.

Re players gravitating to Dublin. This isn’t nearly as big an issue as it was in the noughties when Dublin clubs actually sought out players from rural counties. St Brigids once had a few Fermanagh lads playing with them and even employed Rory Gallagher as a coach. Na Fianna had McGeeney and others. Also, you do realise nobody is forcing the clubs to accept these players? They have to accept the transfer.

Jack McCaffrey actually said himself one of the huge benefits Dublin have is all their players live locally in general, whereas other counties often have players travelling miles for collective training. Again, I’m not whingeing about this, it can’t be avoided, but it proves how wrong some of what you have said is.

I suppose back in the day we also should have stopped Barry Cahill (parents from Cavan) and Pillar Caffrey (again parents from Cavan) “invading” Dublin? I do believe Dean Rock has lived in Ashbourne most of his life if what I’m told is correct. Is he one of the invading masses?

You talk about economies of scale and then speak about the JP money. You are aware it’s a million per county and not a billion? You’re talking about 1 million, given to clubs I might add and not county boards, making a huge difference at county level. That shows how much you just don’t understand the topic at hand.

Dublin were getting 1 million a year back in the late noughties when it went a lot further. Most club teams have management structures costing up on 20k a year now so the JP money won’t even pay that for a year. Clubs in Cavan are going to get 10k to 15k for example. What difference do you expect that to make at intercounty level in this environment?

Where did I claim this?

Cork's Galway's Kerry's Down's etc funding and population advantages over Leitrim Longford Carlow etc are enormous make no mistake about it .

Again what County are you from/support ?

No that wouldn't help Leitrim, Longford Carlow etc ,they would still get hammered by Kerry Galway Cork etc

But sure you've been whinging about Dublin since 2011 on this site with no success ,but please continue tis great crack so it is

Oh wait you havn't answered my question , what County are you from/ support ?

No actually they would absolutely not be helped , they would still not be able to compete against Cork , Kerry Galway etc

It would help only a handful of Counties of which your County no doubt is one of

Again you havn't answered my question what County are you from/support ?

Again its not a fair competition ,Leitrim Longford Carlow cant compete with Galway Kerry Cork Down etc , splitting Dublin would only benefit a handful of Counties which no doubt your County is one of , You still refuse to answer my question !! What County are you from /support ?

13 years on here whinging about Dublin , its getting you nowhere its failing miserably !! why not try something different ?

But sure tis great crack so it is 🙄🙄

And once again splitting Dublin will only help a handful of Counties obviously your own County is one of them , which is why you refuse to say which County you are from/support, 13/14 years of wasting your time whinging about splitting Dublin to help your own County , well its not working lol.....but sure tis great crack 🙄

That's an okay article and I agree with his point about the unfair population advantage massively benefiting Dublin at the expense of everyone else, and how the gap has worsened over the years. But whether the favourtism shown by the GAA to Dublin in terms of Games Development is because of its expected return or just because the GAA wanted to help Dublin at the expense of all other counties, it doesn't really matter- the net result is Dublin uniquely benefited at the expense of everyone else. The article doesn't comment on the funding advantage Dublin get vs other sources too, which is as if not more important.

As has been explained to you before, there are differences between stronger counties funding and Leitrim but it's negligible compared to the funding gap between Leitrim and Dublin. There are differences in population but it pales in comparison to the gap between Leitrim and Dublin. It's not just that differences exist, it's the sheer scale of the differences in Dublin's case vs everyone else, plus the fact they have persisted for decades, plus they ALL are relevant in Dublin's case etc. Leaving Dublin as a single team harms Leitrim and Carlow far more than splitting them does as the current unfairness does so much harm to the All-Ireland competition, which Leitrim and Carlow play in.