The Dominance of Dublin GAA *Mod warning post#1*

Again your living in dream world , your talking nonsense , splitting Dublin as has been explained to you numerous times will only benefit a hand full of Counties , it will do zero to help the Leitrims Longfords etc ,you clearly don't give a rats arse about the smaller weaker Counties, no doubt your own County is one few that would benefit from a Dublin split , but go ahead continue your anti Dublin nonsense , tis great crack altogether .

Lol but that poster wants Dublin split in 4 😂

It benefits everyone, for the reasons I have already given many times. And yes, it helps Leitrim and Longford, just as it helps all counties, especially Dublin. You say I don't give a "rats arse" about Dublin and falsely claim that splitting Dublin won't help the weaker counties but let me turn that around. How does leaving Dublin intact help the smaller counties? How does leaving Dublin as a single team, with all the unfair advantages in terms of population, funding, playing at home etc., help the likes of Leitrim and Longford?

As in previous message: Just because they don't win every year doesn't mean they aren't unfairly advantaged. Dublin alone have unfair advantages in money, population, playing at home etc. The fact they don't win every year doesn't mean those advantages don't exist, it just means they haven't been fully capitalised on. See my previous comparison to a rugby player or soccer player who takes steroids- just because they don't win every match doesn't mean they aren't unfairly advantaged vs their competitors. It's the same with Dublin.

Dublin along with Cork Antrim Down Derry Galway Kerry Mayo etc have unfair advantages in population funding etc over Leitrim Longford Carlow etc

As I've said before it's the combination, scale, nature and duration of advantages that mean Dublin should be split- not just any one of those things individually. While there are discrepancies between other counties they are negligible compared to the gap between Dublin and everyone else. For instance the population between Cork and Leitrim is large but it is immaterial compared to the population gap between Dublin and Leitrim. The gap between Cork and Leitrim in funding but it is immaterial compared to the funding gap between Dublin and Leitrim. Only Dublin play at hom etc.

You didn't answer my question. How does leaving Dublin as a single team help Leitrim, Longford etc? Splitting them would help those counties more, just as it would help every other county, weak or strong, especially Dublin (more players challenging for Sam Maguire, intra-Dublin derbies etc.)

How does Leaving Cork Down Antrim Kerry Galway Mayo etc as single teams help Leitrim Longford Carlow etc ?

Splitting Dublin will not help weaker Counties they cant compete against the above mentioned Counties and it most definitely wouldn't help Dublin , this has been explained to you over and over again , it will only help a handful of Counties " of which your County is no doubt one of "

As i have said before Cork 500.000 V Leitrim 37,000 is not negligible 14 times the difference . Dublin 1,300,000 V Cork 500,000 is negligible in comparison.

Keep trying though tis great crack so it is .

Leaving non-Dublin counties intact helps smaller counties as it enhances the integrity and prestige of the competition. As only Dublin are unfairly advantaged, only Dublin should be split. If Dublin only had a massive population, the size of which makes the differences between other counties negligible by comparison, they could just be split. If Dublin only played at home, they could just move out for major games. If Dublin only had a massive funding advantage for decades, we could just take steps to equalise that with other counties. But take all those advantages in combination and enforce them for decades and it's clear at least a 4-way split is necessary to save the competition and help it in all counties. This is because any county who competes in the All-Ireland is helped by enhancing the prestige and integrity of the competition, which is what the result will be if Dublin are split and no other county is. You can see from the figures given how much larger the gap between Dublin and Leitrim is vs Cork and Leitrim. So the gap between Cork and Leitrim is negligible compared to the Dublin gap.

I'm glad you accept that Dublin are unfairly advantaged. I definitely agree with you there and it's good that you can admit how unfairly advantaged they are.

But you're ignoring the issue of scale here. A county with a population of 155k vs another of 150k technically has a population advantage but it's so small as to more or less not matter. Whereas Dublin vastly outstrips everyone else, including Cork, which is itself a massive outlier. Same for funding- there are discrepancies between other counties but Dublin is by far and away the most advantaged. Playing finals and semi-finals at home has no parallel for any other county too.

I answered you question about how splitting Dublin helps all counties (especially Dublin) and how not splitting other counties also helps all counties. You've yet to answer my question- I think you're too biased to be able to deal with it tbh, unlike people like who can analyse things in a neutral and unbiased way.

If you accept that Cork's, Down's etc. population is an issue, then as Dublin is much larger you must view that as a comparatively larger problem. So I agree here that Dublin should be split. Same for funding. Scale matters here- I don't know what is confusing to you about this. Small discrepancies are tolerable but discrepancies off the scale like in Dublin's case have to be rectified. Glad you accept that Croke Park is an advantage too.

You haven't answered my question about how leaving Dublin as a single, massively unfairly advantaged team vs everyone else helps- please do so.

Wait so you think playing at home in sports isn't an advantage? That's a strange position.

500k vs 37k is neglible relative to 1.3m vs 37k- combine that with the funding and everything else and we're left with the conclusion that Dublin alone should be split. As I've said before, minor discrepancies are fine but Dublin's ones are off the scale and are significant in every major area.

You still haven't answered my question as to why leaving Dublin as a single team helps Leitrim, Carlow etc- please do so. I have given an answer as to how leaving Cork, Down etc helps all counties- it enhances the prestige, fairness and integrity of the competition, just as splitting Dublin does.

It's with a heavy heart that I and many others want to Dublin to be split into 4+ teams. If not for the terrible mismanagement by the GAA for decades perhaps only a two-way split for population would be necessary but sadly, that's no longer the case. There is no animosity towards Dublin here- in fact, the game within Dublin will be the most enhanced, as more players get to compete at the highest level.

We're not saying their won't be some short-term upheaval but in time, this will settle and the game will be massively enhanced for everyone, both in the short and long-term. Dublin supporters will quickly row in behind their new divisional sides, especially as more of their own clubmates would be competing. I don't agree with your point on club championships within Dublin being diminished, they'd be enhanced if anything.

I agree on your points on the funding. But unlike Kilkenny, Dublin were always unfairly advantaged (even when not winning every year). If they won fairly people wouldn't object, but sadly that has not been the case. And because the unfair advantages have been concentrated into Dublin for decades, they'll have to be split to help the GAA deal with this issue. The good news, for Dublin fans and supporters around the country, is that it will help essentially everyone.

Again it wouldn't help Dublin , it would only help a handful of Counties

What a load of nonsense ,whats strange is you refuse to reveal what County you are from , obviously splitting Dublin would help your County

You have come to the conclusion Dublin should be split , do something about it so , your wasting your time here thats for sure

I never said leaving Dublin as a single team helps Leitrim , what i actually said was splitting Dublin alone would not help Leitrim etc

Leitrim Longford etc cant compete with Cork Kerry Galway Down Derry etc, prestige fairness and integrity my a--e ,there is no fairness prestige and integrity for the Leitrims longfords etc

All the big counties have plenty of funding and want for nothing , yes its terribly unfair for the weaker smaller Counties like Leitrim Longford etc

You need to be more anti Dublin and at least accept that the larger Counties have an unfair advantage vs the weaker Counties