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Everything you always wanted to know about electric vehicle (but were afraid to ask)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,887 ✭✭✭Casati


    Okay thanks - no ev yet and am just trying to do all the sums - inc importantly working out total electricity cost. Good to know I won't have issues as Ive made big savings using the heat pump at night and don't want to stop doing that



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 Trek1


    Hi, I'm very new to this - got my first EV 3 weeks ago. A 2019 Kona with 64kw battery. A Zappi charger was installed at the house 10 days ago and is set at "Fast" charge as I've no other power source bar the national grid. I have set the car to charge up to 90% at home on AC and to only charge over night during my night rate time slot. It's set to charge up to 80% if charging at a DC station.

    On the last three home charging sessions the car has indicated that it needed a certain amount to top it up to 90% but the following morning the charger indicated that it gave the car quite a bit more. Example 1: Started charge at 57% which implied that the battery needed about 21kw to top out at 90% - the next morning the Zappi data told me it gave it 27.5kw and the car showed 90% as planned. Example 2: Started charge at 79% = 7Kw needed; the charger gave it 9.6Kw. So many questions in my head over this!!

    Am I looking at this too simply?... Is this normal or should I be worried that something is wrong?... Where is the "extra" energy going?... Which amount of energy am I paying for - should I believe the car or the charger?... Any thoughts would be really welcome.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,083 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Up to 10% energy losses would be normal for home charging but you seem to be getting 20%-30% which would be too high.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,244 ✭✭✭loopymum


    I've only got 12kva connection & we manage fine. I also have a 3kw immersion & granny charge a leaf every night too as well as a HP. Run the washing machine,dryer & dw too. The dryer wouldn't usually go on till the morning. we do have 9hrs of nightrate though.

    The important thing is a load sensing Charge Point like the zappi & setting it up correctly.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭Sabre Man


    A quick look at the Nissan Ariya




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,503 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    A quick look is all you'll get too, absolute mirage of a car so far in Ireland.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭Sabre Man


    Let's take a quick look at the Volvo XC40 and hear what one owner has to say




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭Sabre Man


    In this video we take a quick look at the main features and navigation system of the sporty BMW i4.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭Sabre Man




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭Sabre Man


    Let's take a quick look at how Apple CarPlay works in the Nissan Ariya. 




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 238 ✭✭_ptashek_


    Is there a boards thread or some site or other source that lists all the different providers that one can use with public chargers in Ireland? The more I read, the more confusing it gets. Is there like one app / subscription to rule them all? (boards search function is terrible at finding stuff, so apologies if this was asked a bajillion times already).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 841 ✭✭✭CivilEx


    Start with the Plugshare and that will help with forward planning.

    Generally if you have ESB eCars and EasyGo RFID / app you'll get around ok for DC fast charging. Also consider the Tesla, Ionity and Weev apps. You can use contactless at Applegreen, Circle K, Maxol and BP Pulse(NI). Some find the Freshmile RFID card cost effective for the fastest 100kW+ chargers as long as your EV can DC charge that fast.

    These are all shown within the Plugshare app.

    Once you start getting into the slower AC charging it becomes next level wild west. You'll then potentially also need Plugsurfing, Chargepoint, ShellRecharge, ePowerEV and Monta. I've also come across operators with only a few chargepoints in the country such as EVchargeonline, stopNtop, GoTo-U, EVbox, Virta (and there are more). Plugshare will provide some info.

    Tesla have reasonable rates to Tesla chargers in their cars only but this doesn't give you access to other public charging via the car.

    ChargeMyHyundai / Elli provide an RFID card for most public charging. Look carefully at these though as you might be paying way over the going "per kWh" rate for the "convenience".

    Start with Plugshare, ESB eCars and EasyGo would be my suggestion for most people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭Sabre Man


    This is our first video from the amazing Nevo Electric Vehicle Show from 17 February 2024 and features a panel discussion with the title "My first impression when switching to electric", hosted by Cassie Stokes from Nevo.

    Panelists are:

    Brian Downling, Dublin EV Owners Club

    Matthew Sealy, Chairperson of the Irish EV Association

    Conor Buckley, We Are Human Collective



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,786 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Anyone know if it is still the case that you can import an EV from Northern Ireland and that there is no VRT on EVs and also no VAT if it is registered before a certain year around when Brexit became official? If so what is that year?

    Would be looking at a 2015/6 22kw Renault Zoe. If anyone here has one of that age would be good to hear the real life range on it, dealers just seem to publish the range when it was brand new.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭Sabre Man


    Here's another video from the Nevo Electric Vehicle Show from 17 February 2024, featuring a panel discussion with the title "Living with an electric vehicle", hosted by Cassie Stokes from Nevo.


    Panelists are:

    Annette Lynch Conway, Vice Chair of the Irish EV Association

    Ger Corbett, CEO Sandyford Business District

    Conor Lanigan, Applegreen Electric




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,815 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    Does anybody have any idea how much this BYD EV might sell for in Ireland?



    "At $US15,000, BYD’s new Qin EV is already being touted as a “Corolla killer”, as the world’s second largest EV maker continues to disrupt the global auto market.

    Launched earlier this week in China, the all-electric Qin Plus has five variants priced between 109,800 RMB to ($A23,300) to 139,800 RMB ($A29,700).

    The Qin Plus comes with a 100 kW motor and the option of either a 48 kWh battery providing 420 km CLTC range or a 57.6 kW hour battery with 510 km range.

    Mobility consultant James Carter wrote on LinkedIn the new offering is the $15,000 car that incumbent OEMs (car makers) hoped would never come."


    USD 15,000 abroad would become what here, after margins and VAT?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 330 ✭✭D_D


    There's no way a 57kWh battery will give 510km of range...




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 141 ✭✭Bovakinn


    It's pretty much in line with the WLTP for the model 3 with a similar-sized battery. The car will never see it, but if the WLTP gives it that assessment, then that's what goes into the marketing material.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 330 ✭✭D_D


    The 57kWh battery Model 3 is only 430km WLTP range, the larger 82kWh Model 3 battery is 540km WLTP range... And Teslas do everything to keep their range as best as they can be, so I'm not believing BYD here, seems way too good to be true



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 141 ✭✭Bovakinn


    It's currently listed on their website as 513km WLTP for the standard range (estimated 554km with the 18-inch wheels) with the long range coming in at 629km (678km with 18s). If memory serves last year's model was 490, but an estimated WLTP of 512 with the 18-inch wheels.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,187 ✭✭✭innrain


    That is EPA not WLTP . A rough estimate WLTP=1.2*EPA Tesla cars display the range in EPA, but in Europe they have to use WLTP when advertising



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 330 ✭✭D_D


    Regardless of what system is used to advertise the car's range, it is insane to advertise that a car with a 57kWh battery will give 510km of range... Folks buy it thinking this is possible when it isn't in any reality.

    That would be an efficiency of 11.2kWh/100km 😐



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,187 ✭✭✭innrain


    I think that is a WLTP issue

    linky Does one believe 1.6 l/100km? Would that not mean a 50l tank results in 3k range?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,614 ✭✭✭eagerv


    Which is achievable on rural roads in warmer weather. But I agree, average will never be that good



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 864 ✭✭✭wingnut32


    Thinking about the Renault Megane 60kWh. Is it a good buy?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,497 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    Yep, I think they're decent. Price drops recently brought them down to 35k or so didn't they?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 864 ✭✭✭wingnut32


    Yeah around that for the techno. Its either this or the scenic but I dont think we will see the scenic until next year according to the Renault dealer in Tallaght.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 864 ✭✭✭wingnut32


    Took a test drive today and I am really impressed with it. Nippy little thing too.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,786 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Just want to make sure my maths is right here. Current car gets 100km for 7.2 litres. My commute is 350km per week so it needs 25.2 litres which currently costs just under €43 weekly or annually x 50 weeks is €2,142

    2015 Renault Zoe is listed at 7.2kms per kwh. So to do 350km Id need 49kwh per week. At 15 cent night rate that would work out at €7.50 per week or annually 50 weeks would be €375 which is a saving of €1,767 a year over petrol. This seems too good to be true, is my maths right here or am I missing something? I could get a 2015 Zoe up north for around €5k, three years ownership of it would save me €5,301 of petrol at current prices of €1.70 a llter. So the car would effectively pay for itself in fuel savings and at the end you still have a car that can be sold for maybe €2-3k. Are my calculations correct?



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