When did being woke become a bad thing?

" the woke don’t want reasonable open and fair debate…about anything… shout and run are their tactics…

Jordan Peterson has been ganged up on by woke people on tv shows and they’ve ALL ended up making fools of themselves, trying to shout over him, interrupting, misrepresenting him "

A good example of this is events that took place this past saturday, recently there was a woman sexually assaulted in Waterford.

This past saturday there was a rally to highlight sexual assaults, one of the speakers was from the Irish freedom party.

People before profit being woke turned to counter protest and chanted " refugees welcome " and shouted down a woman speaking about sexual assault, the speaker at the rally didn,t mention " refugees " neither did any of the banners or placards, by turning up to counter protest chanting " refugees welcome " misrepresents and Implies the people holding the rally had a problem with refugees, plenty of videos up online showing what took place.

https://www.tiktok.com/@dimpledempsy/video/7235298144311954715

https://www.tiktok.com/@dimpledempsy/video/7235361558342176026

In this third video you can see the placards clear as day, no mention of " refugees " on any on the placards .

https://www.tiktok.com/@dimpledempsy/video/7235657444733488411

Peterson remains calm, eloquent, quiet, listening, then destroys them with well spoken and accurate words, saw a lady the other day absolutely losing her **** as he enabled clear and confident and concise and irrefutable counter arguments against her, he was so relaxed but focused and she was interrupting constantly and loosing her shît it was delightful and devastating for her to be receiving it. He facilitated her turn to talk but refused steadfast to let her frustrated self talk over him,, his answers like machine gun fire, hitting their target and she just was a mess by the end. He’s unfailingly polite, genuine, fair, confident and courteous with the manner in which he debates , which absolutely riles the woke as they enjoy provoking emotive reactions like all trolls do and they are certainly that, in spades, but he’s also too clever, too fair, too caring, too intelligent and too courageous for them……

Sorry to be repetitive but can you answer the question?

You've gone out of your way to hold up an oversupply of mixed race couples in ads as your best example of wokeness, but can't explain how it's woke, what the purpose of it is, and why it's a bad thing if indeed it is woke.

@tesla_newbie

I'm still not much the wiser where you're coming from, to be honest. It seems to not sit well with you but for reasons that are fairly ill defined or not particularly relevant to the topic. Not just you but this whole thread seems to just be people moaning about the woke brigade in a way that's as annoying and petty as the stuff ye are accusing the workerati of doing. Life is too short for any of it in my opinion.

The insistence by marketing staff in many orgs in Ireland to place Africans in adverts/brochures, etc., is pandering to the woke agenda.

They incorrectly think there is oppression everywhere, so they feel they must rebalance some imagined wrong.

I wonder does this happen in Turkey or Japan?

In Turkey, do colleges/universities/health insurers say: "Jaysus, we better put some Celts in the advert".

Obviously they don't, as they have not been infected by this bonkers thinking yet.

I absolutely despise the term. It's become a catch all label for the idiot brigade.

It's simultaneously shorthand for everything and nothing, which therefore nullifies all things.

katy is a trans person who's tweeting about her rights. She's tweeting about stuff that actually affects her and her community.

Graham Linehan is someone who became so obsessed with trans people his wife and family had to leave him. He's a sad little man. He's an example of how someone can become too obsessed with the culture war.

This discussion on branding and marketing has been fascinating.

It's eye-opening that the bogeyman of 'wokeness' has addled people to the point of questioning that massive, international companies know less about what they're doing in marketing their own products than bystanders who haven't been fooled by the left agenda.

Everyone means different things with these terms, so that is part of the problem. Lots of personalities (like Peterson) make money by generating outrage. I wouldn't see a big difference between the woman harassing the dreadlocks guy and say someone who spends time harassing trans people online, both falling for the clickbait money generating outrage industry. I read the article about the dreadlocks incident and I have news for the author, white people would also be judged as stoners if they have dreadlocks.

For a moment I thought I was on Twitter reading this thread.

Ironically most Anti-Woke people I know are the ones who "cancel" the most and have the highest "Emotive" reactions. the only difference separating Woke & Anti-Woke is at what intensity level is given.

On a more serious note though - We have lost the common sense, average voice.

Many people out there who support a persons rights to free speech, no matter what it is, but also support abortion and are uncomfortable with there being multiple genders but continue to learn what it's all about.

I think anyway.