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Revolut Megathread.

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  • Posts: 9,954 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It is Revolts fault. The have not registered their new BIC on the European Payment Councils database of SEPA Credit Transfer capable banks.

    https://www.europeanpaymentscouncil.eu/sites/default/files/participants_export/sct/sct.pdf?v=1680820246



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,016 ✭✭✭tylercheribini


    I have transferred funds from new Revolut IBAN to an AIB current account without issue yet I still can't do the same to AIB's credit card bill account.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,566 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Regarding ATMs, probably the most concrete answer is it depends

    Revolut will apply an ATM withdrawal fee of 2% once you go above €200 or 5 withdrawal transactions. The limits are higher on the paid accounts

    However you might get charged by the ATM provider as well for using their service. I got hit with that in the US a couple of times


    Also depending on the currency, you might pay an exchange surcharge. This is because Revolut sometimes uses external payment services to change some currencies and they need to pay for that service

    I think if you try exchanging to that currency it'll show the charges

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,596 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Topped up my account via AIB credit card yesterday but during the process was asked for the CVT (3 digit) number from the credit card. I don't think I have been asked for this previously and see no reason for it as during the top-up process you have to go through the AIB approval process to confirm the transaction.

    Have Revolut added this pain-in-the-hole™ feature to push people to directly transfer funds from their Irish bank account to Revolut rather than from a credit card?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 306 ✭✭ShayNanigan


    I take it back... Seems to be very arbitrary how fast the transaction is completed. Now been waiting all day for my money to reach the Revolut account and no sign of it yet. You'd think after it was completed once, it would work the next time but no.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 849 ✭✭✭Connavar


    Has anyone managed to find out when all customers should be on Irish ibans?

    Still waiting on mine



  • Posts: 290 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    This is normal, it's a card transaction after all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,566 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    I've noticed that transferring money to Revolut can often take a day, unless I transfer it first thing in the morning

    Whereas if I transfer from Revolut to another bank it can be very quick, usually done in less than a day


    So I'd be inclined to point the finger at the Irish banks as much as Revolut

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58 ✭✭BEdS_83


    I was told they won’t change my. Long story short I cancelled my account. Created another one same day and hot the Irish iban right away.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,808 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Thanks for this. In your experience is Revlouts charges in non-EU countries much of a muchness or is there a better card out there with lower charges? I'll probably be withdrawing about 1,500 a month so the 2% fees will rack up, its not the end of the world or anything but just wondering is there a better way out there



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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 11,174 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    You should not assume anything about a transaction completing outside the SEPA rules. A delay could happen for many different operational reasons and as long as they are hitting their SEPA targets no one is going to get too excited. It could be something as simple a DBA having to run an extra backup, a file transfer failing, a disaster recover test by one of the licensing or supervisory bodies or any number of other stupid things that happen in a work day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,566 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    I'll be honest, I don't have much experience using Revolut outside Ireland, my experience was with other banks


    Since Revolut is geared towards travellers, I would imagine it's one of the best out there


    Having said that, I'd be tempted to have another card in hand just in case, perhaps N26 or another bank is worth looking into


    You might also want to look into Metal since it's got the highest withdrawal allowance before paying the fee and looking at the amount of cash you'll be withdrawing, the savings should cover the monthly fee

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,808 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Thanks yeah I was just looking into Metal there and am thinking of upgrading to it as it says it gives ATM withdrawls for free up to 800 per month and then also 40% discount on their transaction fees to process anything above that amount. It also gives you travel insurance which I was going to buy anyway for 160 from Multi Trip but Metal is 135 a year so potentially a big saving there. I just have to dig through pages of T&Cs first as the travel insurance bit is vague on the app, I need to see the detail of what it covers before I take cover with Revlout instead of a traditional insurer. If its similar cover for medical and accidents abroad then its a bargain for me as I was going to have to spend 160 on insurance it anyway but Metal could give me that and discounted currency exchange and ATM withdrawal fees on top

    If you or any poster has a referral code or knows of a sign up discount code when upgrading to Metal then kindly post it up. Im happy to go 50/50 if there is a referral code for Metal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,385 ✭✭✭Yggr of Asgard


    Revolut Bank UAB is now offering some of its existing customers up to 80€ to bring in new customers.

    Check in App what your targeted referral bonus is.

    And that for a standard account, not even a paid version, 80€ for a standard customer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,566 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Does anyone know if there's a way to see the total of upcoming expenses?

    If you click into scheduled payments it'll bring up the category totals (vaults, scheduled transfers, subscriptions) but it doesn't show the grand total

    Is there another view that shows this, or is my only option to grab the calculator?

    EDIT: I've managed to answer my own question. If you tap into analytics, then tap scheduled payments and scroll to the bottom there's an option to see all scheduled payments

    It'll open a new page which shows the total of upcoming payments at the top

    Nice, but they could make it easier to find 😕

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,185 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    That referral amount seems to go up and down a bit, earlier this year, I was getting 50, then 60, then 70, now back to 60. I've never referred anyone so it doesn't make any difference to me but would be interested to know how they decide on what the bonus is for each customer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,385 ✭✭✭Yggr of Asgard


    It clearly is targeted because I know people who go a mail today telling them 40, 50, 60, 70 or 80.

    Maybe it's based on your past ability to bring people in or what they estimate they can attach as value to the person you got or maybe it's as simple as they pick the number at random.

    On the surface it seems that if you are a good customer which generates some revenue (premium plans, fees etc.) you are are more likely to have friends that also would do that so you might get a righer referal bonus than someone who just uses Revolut without generating any sort of revenue for them.

    What is clear however is that paying 80€ for a referral is significant.



  • Administrators Posts: 56,221 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Am I imagining things, or did you used to be able to buy travel insurance from Revolut even if you were on the free plan?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,566 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    It's a bit annoying that they only offer the standard card with the joint account with no option to personalise it

    It would be nice if it was a different colour to easily distinguish it from a personal account one

    It does seem to say joint account on it at least, just would have preferred something more idiot proof

    EDIT: Well seems that Revolut heard me and decided to make me look the fool 😅

    Got the new joint card today and it's definitely a darker shade of blue/magenta to my standard one


    Dunno if that's just the new colour scheme, I got my personal card in 2022 so it might have changed

    Post edited by the_amazing_raisin on

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68 ✭✭Alangers


    Has anyone on here had Revolut restrict their account? I have been using my Revolut for a while as my main account - had the account since 2019. I recently was transferred to an Irish IBAN and was in the process of setting up my account to receive funds using the new IBAN and SWIFT. The Swift code returned an error when i was using it and i contact their in app chat to see why this might be the case and was immediately sent an email saying that my account was restricted and under review... More alarming is the following message in the chat i was having.

    Also, since your account is currently being reviewed, I would like to inform you that the following actions are restricted on your account until the review is completed: 

    ❌ Inbound and outbound transfers - (to send or receive funds)

    ❌ Crediting the account (top-up)

    ❌ Card payments

    ❌ ATM withdrawals

    ❌ Exchange funds into you base currency

    ❌ Terminating your account

    ❌ Selling commodities e.g. gold/silver

    ❌ Selling your cryptocurrency

    ↩️ any transfers made to your account will automatically be rejected and returned to the original sender.

    As i use the account for my salary I am now in a position that i cant get paid this month and therefore cant pay any bills mortgage etc until the restriction is lifted. They wont tell me how long it will take, what i need to do nor what i can do in the mean time for access to money. All shared vaults with my wife are also blocked so we cant access any shared funds either! Has anyone come across this and if so how long did it take to lift the restriction. Any help appreciated.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,219 ✭✭✭oneweb


    Tried to look up Revolut Ireland Bank's eircode - D01 V4A3 - and realised the address is Dublin 1 ;)

    It is what it's.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,385 ✭✭✭Yggr of Asgard


    You are not going to see a reliable updates via Chat on this as the actual review is done by a different team that is not in regular real time contact with the people that reply to chats.

    This looks like an AML review of your account giving that they completely blocked any transactions and even will reject any incoming transfers.

    The fastest way to engage with a real human being is immediately make a formal complaint (Info here), you can also try this e-mail address: formalcomplaints@revolut.com . They claim they respond in a couple of days, but it can take up to 15 days.

    That way you create a Papertrail you can use later if you need to complain to the Financial Ombudsman to get your funds back in case Revolut closed your account and you don't want to wait ages for a refund.

    Best is to get relevant paperwork ready (passport, proof of residence, proof of funds like Tax Return) and as you seem to receive money via SWIFT you might also want to have a proof why you are getting funds from outside the EU.

    Worst case is they will close your account, best case is the relevant team is happy and the suspension is lifted quickly.

    I got hit with a while ago right after the Irish IBAN got issued but I managed to get it lifted within a few hours, but others had their account in limbo for weeks.

    Good luck, I hope you get access to your funds back soon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,219 ✭✭✭oneweb


    Sure enough, that bounced too 🤦🏻‍♂️

    The bizarreness of AIB Credit Card payment failures continues...

    Revolut sent the Direct Debit... and got it back.

    I manually sent a payment... and got it back.

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    AIB accepted the Direct Debit... and sent it back.

    There's no appearance of my manual payment attempt.

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    For anyone wishing to complain (and I'd suggest EVERYONE who's affected submits a complaint, 'cos the more they get, the larger they'll realise the problem is):

    The Financial Services and Pensions Ombudsman (the “FSPO”) is the out of court dispute resolution authority that deals with complaints against financial services providers doing business in Ireland. The FSPO has its address at Lincoln House, Lincoln Place, Dublin 2, D02 VH29.

    If you are unhappy with how we have dealt with your complaint, you can refer it free of charge to the FSPO once you have been through our internal Revolut complaints process. You can reach the FSPO by phone (+ 353 1 567 7000) or by email ( info@fspo.ie). If you need more information on the FSPO, please refer to its website.

    It is what it's.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    So AIB are telling me that Revolut have accepted responsibility for the problem, which was due to not sending the credit card number reference properly with the transfer. It seems unlikely, but sure…

    Has anyone else heard anything different?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,043 ✭✭✭✭Mimikyu


    I find that hard to believe. I sent a test transaction from Revolut to Bunq and the reference was exactly how I had put it in Revolut. Still getting reversed when I send from Bunq or Revolut.

    Will have to make a payment over the phone for the stamp duty on the card.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,256 ✭✭✭christy c


    I got a letter telling me AIB investigated and confirmed it wasn't their fault and contact Revolut if I need more information. Didn't say anything about credit card not coming through



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Hard to believe indeed. I’ve made transfers to my CU account, with the reference coming through perfectly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,385 ✭✭✭Yggr of Asgard


    I think the issue is that there are if I recall correctly 3 different reference fields in a SEPA transfer and AIB and Revolut are not using the same fields when it comes to transfers, which is why the payment to the credit card accounts are hitting an issue.

    Checking some quick documents there are 3 field:

    • Payment description
    • Payment reference
    • End-to-end id

    Now if I recall from an earlier post, AIB expect the reference credit card number in the End-toEnd ID field for payments on the "domestic" payment account which they call reference field, however the info you add to revolut in Reference is the Payment Description field not the end-to-end id and hence AIB gets something they are not set up to deal with.

    So, if you make a transfer to some other bank which displays the payment description as reference on your account statement, yes, you will see the right numbers, but AIB is looking at the end-to-end id.

    Same for Bunq, the description field they use is being transmitted as Payment description.

    I assume AIB has set up the "domestic" payment account to look at end-to-end and hence it's not getting something in there and it rejects, and they have set up the "foreign" payment account to look at payment description, but it rejects irish IBAN's because those don't have payment description.

    This is why you did not have any problems paying from your LT IBAN, it came onto the "foreign" reference account which looked at the right field and hence went into your credit card.

    So as long as Bunq/Revolut are not using End-to-end id this will continue.

    I know that some banks are offering both payment description and end-to-end id in their online transactions, but Revolut/Bunq don't.

    So AIB is not totally wrong when they claim it's a Revolut issue but it's only a revolut issue because AIB is not looking at all fields and the Irish banking sector has decided to use End-to-End rather than payment description.

    At least that is my view, but there are people on here, which will be in a way better position to explain this.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I’ve been making payments to AIB credit card from my Revolut account for months without any difficulty.

    The only thing that changed was the switch from LT to IE IBAN for the Revolut account. It’s hard to see how this would impact referencing.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,385 ✭✭✭Yggr of Asgard


    It doesn't impact referencing on Revolut sides, it impacts AIB.

    When you pay to the "foreign" reference account they look for the payment description field, check if it matches a credit card number and if it's from a foreign account and voila it will be processed as credit to your account. Somebody might even doing this manually. God only knows it's AIB!

    When you pay to the "domestic" reference account they look at the End-to-end id (which is what Irish Banks are using to transmit the payment reference) and the computer picks up your reference and credit to your card happens as its automated.

    Now you come with a Revolut LT IBAN on the "foreign" reference account, and all is well as there is a payment description. All good. Computer sees what it expects - foreign bank sending and reference in payment description field. Credit to your account happens.

    Now you come with a Revolut IE IBAN but there is nothing in the "End-to-end id" because Revolut does not submit anything in that field. But computer says this is from an "irish" bank, so there must be something in "end-to-end". Hence AIB does not know where to credit the money too. Which is why they first accept the payment into the reference account but then are unable to credit it further.

    There are 2 simple solutions, Revolut start using "end-to-end" when payments are sent from the Irish IBAN or AIB starts using modern banking apps that allow to look at all 3 fields independent which reference account the payment lands on.

    Now again open to correction, it might be that the fields are used different but that is my understanding.

    I had a similar issue when I tried to pay my PTSB visa card years ago from my German account, it returned, but my German bank offers all three fields to put info in there, so once I put the card number into the "end-to-end" field all was fine.



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