Donald Trump discussion Thread IX (threadbanned users listed in OP)

It would be nice to think that Trump will fund his legal actions against any Jan 06th offences charges brought against him from the voluntary contributions of GOP supporters and people who bought into his non-fungible token scheme, what with the Jan 06 Committee's suggestions to DOJ. It's amusing to see that he used the temptation of giving free goodies to sucker in buyers. If non-fungible tokens cannot be exchanged but can be sold on, the Trump tokens actual value should soon be seen on whatever markets trade in tokens. Hopefully there will be no market appetite for the tokens.

Adding the apparent awakening in future hopeful GOP candidates as to the dead weight effect Trump is having on their chances to a failure of Trumps token sales to people he is trying to sucker in will hit hopefully him on two fronts. Despite Mitch McConnell being a GOP chancer through and through, I'd like to think his statement yesterday that everyone in the US knows who was responsible for the Jan 06 event was genuine in content. Bleed Trump dry financially and have his former staffers turn on him in court to save their own skins as the GOP disowns him.

Maybe Trump should sell or franchise medals or badges that say the bearer is proud to lie for Trump.

Likely his mates buying plenty to make the prices go up I think?

Anyway he is threatening the obvious, a bit of a grim message "vote for me I'l make sure a Dem will be president"

I'm not sure how this would work out for him, he is petty enough for sure, but their is a lot of work involved in this and also is it in his best overall interests for the Dems to have the white house, senate and house in 2024?

RDS or any other GOP politician in the big chair would keep the wolves from the door, however a spoiler campaign which would likely end in a dem trifecta why would the GOP lift a finger in 2024?

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Sure he's already massively damaged the GOP vote for years to come thanks to covid scepticism leading to many more Republicans dying than Democrats, then there's the constant telling people how every election is rigged so more and more of his supporters aren't even bothering to vote at all.

Of course but what happens when Biden wins and the dems clean up everywhere? If I were Trump I would want friends in high places.

Trump and the social con's have always had a strange relationship, both loath each other but because Trump has delivered when it comes to abortion and the social cons came out to vote for Trump all was good.

I'm not sure its wise going after them though and running from what many on the right says was his finest achievement when in power.

https://twitter.com/ChrisMegerian/status/1609664538181255171

I see Virgin One have a program on at 9pm tonight about Trump and Janarary the 6th 2021?

It's called "Trump's Last Stand"

Think it might look at what his chance of goinf dir a second term in the future are too.

Has Trump made any statements about Nicky Haley announcing her presidential campaign yet?

Tame so far. An email saying she supports cutting Medicare and social security.

And a comment to Fox "welcoming" her but also unsubtly mentioning that she previously committed not to run against him.

She's most likely to be his VP when he wins the primary so its going to be tame stuff between them.

That's another issue for DeSantis, Haley knows Trump is a disaster, but from her POV she is thinking becoming his VP is her most likely route to the top slot in 2028. These no hopers know the longer they stay in the race the more damage they do to RDS, Trump will make it worth their while.

Now that was a fascinating and surprising interview.I think she has stars in her eyes.

I bet Trump wished she was on his team.

On CNN they were saying she may have compromised the case against him by being so candid :-(

Has her role in the process ended now,though?

How can she be removed if their part has been played?

Can they go for a re"trial" on the basis that she has divulged restricted information and so kick the case down the road?

The judge who supervised the hearings, when asked about the contents of the forepersons interview, that it was ok for the foreperson to make the statements she made, in so far as she did not step outside the boundary of what could be said in respect to the actual evidence/statements given during the grand jury hearing. At the end of the day now, due to the case's political connotations, personal opinions will direct the way her statements will be read.

He lost his cool way to easily against Crist an absolute loser last year on the debate stage which is a big worry for him.

However yeah if all these people are going to say on stage " Trump is amazing , I love his policies but vote for me because I am young" then God help them.

Not a massive shock as he was going nowhere in a primary. It's a shame because he would have been one of the few who may have took the gloves off against Trump but alas not to be. Cotton, Hawley and Cruz all have ruled themselves out, I'd assume fellow blue state governors Baker and Sunanu will soon enough. Mike Pompeo, Tim Scott, Kristi Noem and Mike Pence are the only big hitters (bar RDS) left I think who have not declared one way or other whether they will run.

I'm surprised he's still not back on Twitter. I heard, over a month ago, that apparently his team have been discussing what his first tweet should be. I believe there are some contractual issues with Truth Social but if he's serious about running for President that he probably needs to have a wider audience than the loons on there.

He needs the validation of winning, so he's definitely not in it to lose.

He's just tremendously lazy and incompetent. Eventually he'll be back on Twitter.

Yes it's quite disgusting but ten I woukd not expect anything else from such a vile creature.

Good point.

Hopefully he loses again.

Yes but him lying about winning is not the same as actually winning. Yes, the base will always be there to lap up his lies and fall for his grifts. What he really really cares about, deep down though, is the validation from the people who he thinks have disrespected him his whole life: basically the same "elites" that he's always railed against. So the New York Times, establishment politicians, career diplomats, hell even other world leaders. When he won they all had to give him the respect due to the office. When he lost they were all free to ignore him again. He'd love to win again just to "show" those people.

The Irish Examiner and MSNBC reports indicate that the arrest Trump expects is in relation to the NY Grand Jury hearings. Trump himself stated that the fact he expects to be arrested is based on what he refers to as an "illegal" leak from the Grand Jury.

Some-one repeated a question in the past day as to what Trump's Secret Service detail would do if another US law agency moved to arrest Trump on foot of an indictment and arrest warrant ordered served on him in a criminal matter? Would the agency the Secret Service answered to [Homeland Security] order the Secret Service to comply with its prime lawful and legal obligations to the US over any obligations the protection detail might feel it bore to Trump by standing aside to permit the arrest of Trump while providing the required degree of safety for Trump as an arrested person? I reckon either of the two agencies would have failed in their duties to prepare for such an arrest and plan procedures to cover the eventuality - even if it was kept in a secure filing cabinet. It would certainly decide matters in respect of the USSC and impartiality.

Would his detail put themselves in legal jeopardy for impeding a lawful court order if they prevented his arrest? (ie be arrested themselves)

I understand he is not going to be arrested but may be asked to present himself .

If he refuses to comply I am not familiar with ensuing procedure.