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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    They are getting hundreds of tanks,

    The first Ukrainians flew into the UK to work on the Challenger 2 tanks, other's are in Poland training on the lepoard 2s and tens of thousands have been training in infantry across the eu and Nato.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,017 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    In the recent 2 months, not much, it's the winter season, so fighting has slowed to a crawl. The Russians and Wagner especially are throwing the "winter" kitchen sink at Bahkmut and surrounding, which is costing a lot of lives on both sides. Unfortunately they are making some gains, but it's WW1 stuff, either measured in villages or metres.

    I am worried about a larger Russian offensive in the spring, and have always been worried about the impact of those infrastructure attacks on the Ukrainians - on the flipside Ru has been using winter as a weapon of war, that gets defused as we leave winter, the Ukrainians are adapting to the infrastructure attacks as well as decentralising their utilities needs



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Who in the west is saying they will promise to supply a few tanks next year?

    The leopards and Challengers should be delivered in a few months. You really have no concept of time, do you?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,058 ✭✭✭✭briany


    The Russian 'war machine' has made very few advances since late Summer 2022. Since that point, the most notable changes in territorial control are in the Ukraine column.

    You have the Russian apologists currently saying that Russia's objective in all of this is to conquer the Donbass. Assuming that Bakhmut is the key to achieving that, if Russia were to capture that town and the rest of the Donbass, it would be interesting to see the apologists' tune change toward a more sweeping goal, which is obviously what Russia intended to begin with before their military was shown up to be woefully obsolete, corrupt and generally feckless, relative to its size and reputation.

    Even if you were to assume the worst and that Russia could somehow subsume the whole of Ukraine at the end of this conflict (or at least get to Kyiv), there would still be the task of holding that territory and controlling a population who would now despise Russia, especially the further west you go in that country. If you think of the brutal regime of repression and coercion that Russia would have to implement to control this population, it gets to be no mystery at all as to why the Ukrainian population is fighting so hard to, if not expel the Russians, then to keep them at bay.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,443 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    As long as you're here shilling for russia but refuse to put forward your own solutions, then the russian position will be assumed for you, I think you know this, hence your unwillingness to say.

    However, it's pretty hypocritical to ask questions of others without answering the most basic of them (what is your peace plan?) yourself. This has been a tactic repeated by multiple russian shills over the past couple of years, so don't be surprised.

    And I'm sure there will be more pearl clutching about "the cost" in the future.

    Anyway, what do you specifically mean by this, what part of what I have said is fanfiction and why, give your own opinion on it:

    Have you tried fanfiction.net? I believe they are still taking on new members.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    @Wolf359f The Abrams won't be arriving until late in 2023/ possibly 2024 ,but they don't need to arrive if the 100+ leopards and other tanks and IFVs arrive over the next 12 weeks or so .

    Can't believe I quoted myself instead of your post



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,017 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    "We were told the winter would see the collapse of the Russian army" - Never saw that anywhere

    "They are being pushed back as we speak." - Yes Russia has made some gains, nothing too dramatic though, and they have had colossal losses for those gains. Keep in mind all of that is taking a toll on the Ru military.

    Hypothetically Ukraine can fight forever with the support of countries that have significantly deeper pockets than Russia (keep in mind Ru had the GDP of Italy, and is now heavily sanctioned and has vast amounts of it's assets locked up). Ukr was on a clock at the beginning of the war, however that appears to be shifting now, and it seems Russia is on the clock, they can't keep this up, we constantly see signs of this on the battlefield, worsening equipment, older equipment, using older missiles. It's not an exact science, but the signs are all there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 287 ✭✭dennis72


    Untitled Image

    Something on the move from Iran has suddenly stopped is this a US/Israeli op to interrupt a drone shipment?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Oh I know that. Nobody was expecting Abrams at all tbf.

    But the poster is just glossing over the 100+ tanks Poland will be handing over and the potential 200 western tanks arriving in months. He just says a few tanks next year!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,017 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,087 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    They aren't trying to. They are sending lot's of troops to other countries for advanced training, even to Cambodia, and conserving and marshalling forces, ammo and equipment for a major offensive later in the year. They aren't on their last legs, they are resting and up-skilling. The Bradley's haven't even arrived, but any hour now, but you want them to go tearing off, half cocked.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭charlie_says




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,332 ✭✭✭RGARDINR


    I say America want this conflict wrapped up at some point this year with a complete Ukraine victory if there is a worry on their behalf in regards to China. I say they want a weak Russia so they can concentrate on China.

    Screenshot_20230129_233505_com.android.chrome.jpg

    Interesting times indeed I reckon in that part of the world within the next few years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,087 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Impressive data on disposed Russian terrorist forces for the week.


    ✅ 5400 minced meat,

    ✅437 units of weapons and military equipment

    They are utterly slaughtering them with their engine idling. If this keeps up, they will have lost 370,000 by the end of the year and more than a million wounded, I'd guess.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,087 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    On telegram, I saw a mention that behind the scenes, more is happening privately than is mentioned publicly. Valery Zaluzhnyi looks to be getting his wish; just over that magic 300 number.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,087 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    It is. They have cemented their place in the history of combat legends with carbonite.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,017 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Is there something wrong with that particular Twitter account?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,135 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Why don't you tell us.....

    in 1 week, when Russia potentially lost 5400 soldiers and 437 pieces of equipment, how many sq. km or land have they taken? They may have gained 3km (maybe 1 sq. km) from Kuzmyne to Dibrova in a very very narrow focus attack (only 576km to Kyiv)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,087 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    I already addressed that on the previous page, and someone very kindly proved my main point in the previous post.

    Post edited by cnocbui on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,025 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Big Zel???? That some kind of word play on Zelensky? Regarding best interests for Uncle Sam, at this point in time ( particularly at this point in time) I'd say that the ongoing illegal invasion of Ukraine by Russia would have an impact on Uncles Sam's best interests, given their commitments to support Ukraine... but, no according to you. Its not of interest to the Rand Corporation to include them in their assessments. Gotcha!!! All clear now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,355 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    Y'all need patience, this was never going to end over night.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭charlie_says


    Reality of the situation really. Pretty sure they are all at least valid dark thoughts that people have from time to time in minds of a Ukrainian there. Seems pretty obvious to me. People worry about things in extreme circumstances.

    Usually I ignore most videos and pictures from conflict tbh as they could be anything most of the time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Be that as is may, the simple fact running through each Ukrainian defender (and I'll include everyone from soldiers to nurses, doctors, rail workers, civil engineers etc.... it's a very long list) knows what they do and defend is against their family getting raped and murdered. That's pretty strong motivation. It's almost impossible for us in Ireland to comprehend what strength and determination people can muster when their loved ones are at risk.

    When your country is expected to fall in 3 days and nearly a year later you have beat back the worlds second army and inflicted massive losses, when you have asked and begged for artillery and now it's arriving weekly, you ask for HIMARS, get it, ask for tanks, get it.... when the western world is pretty much going all in on you and citizens in said countries are feeling a financial burden but still backing you.... how does that not boost ones morale?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭charlie_says


    Raped. Murdered. HIMARS.

    OK I've changed my mind, your logic is rich and compelling vs mine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    If you can't see how people defending their loved ones from genocide for close to a year is not a morale boost, then maybe you just have no clue.

    Your logic is they have dark thoughts.... yet they continue to fight, continue to stay and support their military, despite being welcomed within the EU, continue to fight and for for their country. To you that's low morale? What would high morale look like to you?

    We've seen videos of Ukrainian children singing in bomb shelters. Where's this low morale?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,087 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Listen up, boys and girls; when you want to make sure no one could possibly mistakenly think you are a Nazi, dress the way I do.

    Looks like a Nazi.jpg

    Ivan Okhlobystin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,131 ✭✭✭purplepanda


    Dr Strangelove lives again, that's very uncanny & even frightening! 😆



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,687 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    And, this putpologist woke up when the most recent one was threadbanned. Their posts are similar, too. Puzzling... /s



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