29/01
Could be word eating time for some if Franco-German diplomacy causes Putin to make compromises and withdraw.
@charlie_says .
Ukrainian morale isn't low ,no idea where your getting that idea from,if anything their backs are up especially with talks of western tanks and aircraft coming, HiMars are wiping out hundreds of Russians every strike and the Russians are loosing thousands of men per week,
Low morale, have you seen any of the videos of Ukrainans singing and dancing mean while the Russians are complaining about not getting equipment or training and dieing enmass day and night with little or no protection from the Ukrainans.
But what advances and gains have Ukraine made in months?
I don't see anyone claiming that.
Kherson and...
That's a 3 month timeframe.
Actually going back 3.5 months and Kharkiv was all liberated.
Ukraine actually liberated more of their land in the past 4 months than the 7/8 months preceding it.
Personal opinion word salad
The Ukrainians seem to be holding up despite everything that's happening, whereas in complete contrast, Russian troop morale is low, reports of infighting, and units complaining on camera about horrendous conditions, desertions, living with corpses, poor quality supplies and bad equipment.
When was that?
There is no doubt that things have turned a bit towards Russia's favour on the battlefield but Ukraine is making it very difficult for them and their advances are coming at huge cost for little gain.
It's important Ukraine can hold the current defence lines because if the Russians get a big breakthrough and start running riot across the country those tanks won't be handed over I reckon.
Holding up where?
They are being pushed back as we speak.
We were told the winter would see the collapse of the Russian army and Ukrainians would have the best winter gear.
What we have seen is the Ukrainians retreating.
And the west promises to supply a few tanks for next year.
Its pathetic, the West need to wake up quickly.
Israel have shown the balls it takes in the last 24 hours if we are serious about defeating Russia.
They are moving into kreminna slowly,
And we know they are prepping for a mass counter offensive in spring,why do you think that they are not pushing thousands of men into bakhmut,they might eventually pull out of bakhmut but there will be nothing for the Russians to hold or build on ,
Western amor and tanks are coming, where's all of the Russian tanks and bmps hiding they aren't being found in Ukraine,we are seeing Russians vehicles day and night getting wiped out ,not so much of Ukrainans getting wiped out,
50,000 Wagner forces fighting in and around bakhmut but you can guarantee Only a fraction of that on the Ukrainans side holding bakhmut for the last 6 months ,
6 months and the Ukrainans still hold bakhmut despite the regular updates from some telling us the situation is critical,the Ukrainans are withdrawing
And yet they are still holding bakhmut
That was back 3 months ago, 3.5 months ago, all that green area was held by Russia.
They are getting hundreds of tanks,
The first Ukrainians flew into the UK to work on the Challenger 2 tanks, other's are in Poland training on the lepoard 2s and tens of thousands have been training in infantry across the eu and Nato.
In the recent 2 months, not much, it's the winter season, so fighting has slowed to a crawl. The Russians and Wagner especially are throwing the "winter" kitchen sink at Bahkmut and surrounding, which is costing a lot of lives on both sides. Unfortunately they are making some gains, but it's WW1 stuff, either measured in villages or metres.
I am worried about a larger Russian offensive in the spring, and have always been worried about the impact of those infrastructure attacks on the Ukrainians - on the flipside Ru has been using winter as a weapon of war, that gets defused as we leave winter, the Ukrainians are adapting to the infrastructure attacks as well as decentralising their utilities needs
Who in the west is saying they will promise to supply a few tanks next year?
The leopards and Challengers should be delivered in a few months. You really have no concept of time, do you?
The Russian 'war machine' has made very few advances since late Summer 2022. Since that point, the most notable changes in territorial control are in the Ukraine column.
You have the Russian apologists currently saying that Russia's objective in all of this is to conquer the Donbass. Assuming that Bakhmut is the key to achieving that, if Russia were to capture that town and the rest of the Donbass, it would be interesting to see the apologists' tune change toward a more sweeping goal, which is obviously what Russia intended to begin with before their military was shown up to be woefully obsolete, corrupt and generally feckless, relative to its size and reputation.
Even if you were to assume the worst and that Russia could somehow subsume the whole of Ukraine at the end of this conflict (or at least get to Kyiv), there would still be the task of holding that territory and controlling a population who would now despise Russia, especially the further west you go in that country. If you think of the brutal regime of repression and coercion that Russia would have to implement to control this population, it gets to be no mystery at all as to why the Ukrainian population is fighting so hard to, if not expel the Russians, then to keep them at bay.
As long as you're here shilling for russia but refuse to put forward your own solutions, then the russian position will be assumed for you, I think you know this, hence your unwillingness to say.
However, it's pretty hypocritical to ask questions of others without answering the most basic of them (what is your peace plan?) yourself. This has been a tactic repeated by multiple russian shills over the past couple of years, so don't be surprised.
And I'm sure there will be more pearl clutching about "the cost" in the future.
Anyway, what do you specifically mean by this, what part of what I have said is fanfiction and why, give your own opinion on it:
Have you tried fanfiction.net? I believe they are still taking on new members.
@Wolf359f The Abrams won't be arriving until late in 2023/ possibly 2024 ,but they don't need to arrive if the 100+ leopards and other tanks and IFVs arrive over the next 12 weeks or so .
Can't believe I quoted myself instead of your post
"We were told the winter would see the collapse of the Russian army" - Never saw that anywhere
"They are being pushed back as we speak." - Yes Russia has made some gains, nothing too dramatic though, and they have had colossal losses for those gains. Keep in mind all of that is taking a toll on the Ru military.
Hypothetically Ukraine can fight forever with the support of countries that have significantly deeper pockets than Russia (keep in mind Ru had the GDP of Italy, and is now heavily sanctioned and has vast amounts of it's assets locked up). Ukr was on a clock at the beginning of the war, however that appears to be shifting now, and it seems Russia is on the clock, they can't keep this up, we constantly see signs of this on the battlefield, worsening equipment, older equipment, using older missiles. It's not an exact science, but the signs are all there.
Something on the move from Iran has suddenly stopped is this a US/Israeli op to interrupt a drone shipment?
Oh I know that. Nobody was expecting Abrams at all tbf.
But the poster is just glossing over the 100+ tanks Poland will be handing over and the potential 200 western tanks arriving in months. He just says a few tanks next year!
Still holding.
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They aren't trying to. They are sending lot's of troops to other countries for advanced training, even to Cambodia, and conserving and marshalling forces, ammo and equipment for a major offensive later in the year. They aren't on their last legs, they are resting and up-skilling. The Bradley's haven't even arrived, but any hour now, but you want them to go tearing off, half cocked.
Lovely account.
I say America want this conflict wrapped up at some point this year with a complete Ukraine victory if there is a worry on their behalf in regards to China. I say they want a weak Russia so they can concentrate on China.
Interesting times indeed I reckon in that part of the world within the next few years.
Impressive data on disposed Russian terrorist forces for the week.
✅ 5400 minced meat,
✅437 units of weapons and military equipment
They are utterly slaughtering them with their engine idling. If this keeps up, they will have lost 370,000 by the end of the year and more than a million wounded, I'd guess.
On telegram, I saw a mention that behind the scenes, more is happening privately than is mentioned publicly. Valery Zaluzhnyi looks to be getting his wish; just over that magic 300 number.
It is. They have cemented their place in the history of combat legends with carbonite.
Is there something wrong with that particular Twitter account?
And have they moved forward?
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