What are your views on Multiculturalism in Ireland? - Threadbanned User List in OP

Irexit is a stupid idea, but then again so is inviting in, at this stage it looks like hundreds of thousands, of dodgy chancers from the world's hellholes who offer nothing to this country bar a drain on resources and social problems.

Which again is bugger all to do with the EU. So why the hell do some keep bringing it up? It's us, it's our politicians, it's our NGOs, it's our bleeding hearts and vested interests in media and business. Not the EU.

Leaving the EU would have no direct effect, save for plunging the country into recession which tends to put off the "asylum seekers", except for the genuine ones of course*. So yeah that might work in that sense. Or not. Britain's economy is stalled and they're out of the EU and did so with a strop, burning bridges behind them, yet they're still having problems with non European migrants on dinghies crossing the English channel and keep going on about it. Never mind the various diasporas they invited in from their defunct empire down the decades. The Brexit eejits complaining about the "darkies" forgot they imported them. What leaving the EU did far more was cut the flow of pale Europeans into their country.

*I knew an asylum seeking family in the early 80's. Y'know when Ireland was fecked. The lad I knew his parents settled here because they were accepted and it was safe. And remember this wasn't long after when Ireland begrudgingly took in just 200 Vietnames "Boat People" after international pressure, so this guy's family were clearly in danger.

I mean "our choice" in the sense of our political leaders. Oh it's cerainly not our choice as citizens, or our choice is pretty much unmeasured on this subject. The only choice we did get because it was a constitutional thing was on the jus soli vote in 04 and we made our feelings clear there and it was "nope".

The singular problem is our Hobson's choice of candidates and parties. All of the parties that anyone halfway sensible would tick a box beside sing from the same "multicultural" hymn sheet. FFG obviously do, the busted flush that is Lab would be worse, or just as bad as the utterly useless, some might say stupidly dangerous Greens. And if anyone thinks SF are any sort of choice on this particular matter I've magic beans to sell you. If anything they'll be worse. The only ones that don't sing from this hymn sheet are tiny catholic Ireland, Irexit, actual right wingers who would struggle to fill a hotel lounge with their voters. Y'know, morons. There isn't an example of a party that would be sensible centrists on most talking points and who are sensible centrists on immigration. That's our problem in Ireland. In essence we've ended up with a one party system, the names just change. Plus in Irish politics it's the case that when the trough is wide enough and it is, the piglets won't fight over it.

I've voted in every election, local and national, and every referendum since I proudly got my first voter card. Well I did up until the last general election. Because of all of what I wrote above I just didn't bother tbh. In the future unless I see genuine measured alternatives, independents or otherwise I'll only vote in referenda. And I hate having to type that.

But again this has bugger all to do with the EU as you were saying earlier and that was the point I was making. As for your examples listed, save for the Brazillians(too many of whom are also illegals) the rest are fellow EU members so are a very different bunch, one we did vote for to allow intra-EU free movement. One I voted for myself. They're all legal. Fitting in is a biggie and the elephant in the room of this multiculturalist politic. In every single case of European(and beyond) multicultural societies, the people who look or appear to act, or act least like the locals face the most problems and societies feel the most problems from them. Basic human nature. Like I said before the facts are the vast majority of inward migration into Ireland over the last 30 years have been European or of European extraction. The Poles alone dwarf the number of Africans, yet are essentially invisible to the left, the right, the media, the government and NGO's. Ireland has a Black history month for feck's sake, yet the Poles don't get a wet Tuesday in November. We have far more historical connections to nations like Spain and France, even Italy yet they get nada too. If you want to figure out the squeaky wheel, ask where the oil goes.