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Off Topic Chat. (MOD NOTE post# 3949 and post#5279)

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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,946 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    Some useful stats on how many firearms were licensed here last year and in what counties. Be a bit worried that according to the article "human killers" are licensed here too!!😮

    https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/over-51000-licenses-issued-for-shotguns-and-rifles/

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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,610 ✭✭✭Feisar


    Very misleading, most of those will be renewals although I know it's basically a new application but there is not now 95K new guns. Plus I would expect 2021 to be higher as the three year licences started in 2015, six years ago last year so a lot of renewals would be up. Is my logic sound on that?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,946 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    Plus I would expect 2021 to be higher as the three-year licences started in 2015, six years ago last year.


    Are you sure?Think that came in around 05/08 time period!

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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,610 ✭✭✭Feisar


    That was a polite way of saying I was way off! I took a quick date that related to something else when I read further.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,449 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    Three year licensing was introduced by the 2009 Criminal Justice ( Miscellaneous Provisions) Act. Those with restricted pistols, afaik, were the first to be renewed (along with their other firearms) and it went from there.

    I sent my renewals off in July of 2009 and new licenses "started" from October 2009.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,946 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    That long ago already?Time flies when you are miserable!🙄😅

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  • Registered Users Posts: 549 ✭✭✭Munsterlad102


    I'd be interesting to see what's being licensed as humane killers. Is it a 32 cashman like the ones mentioned in the Commissioner's Guidelines or a 22lr pistol or something else.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 1,436 Mod ✭✭✭✭otmmyboy2


    I doubt we'd get such granular detail, but I do know 2 folks in my locality who have .22 pistols licenced as humane killers with 5 round mags so it is doable.

    Neither are target shooters or members of ranges either, so no dual use there.

    Never forget, the end goal is zero firearms of any type.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 524 ✭✭✭BSA International


    Does it state in legislation and or an SI that you have to be a member of an authorised range?



  • Registered Users Posts: 549 ✭✭✭Munsterlad102




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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,449 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    Section 4(2)(e) of the principal act states that if a rifle or pistol is sought for target shooting that the person must be a member of an authorised range.

    If applying for a humane killer then obviously you won't be target shooting hence don't need to be a member of a range.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 39,098 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Was reading a magazine the other day. And there was an article/review on Sig Bluetooth rangefinders - and this may be well known, but rangefinders are not something I’m too up to spend on.

    My understanding is that, the range finder has a ballistic calc build in. when you range a target. Instead of saying just 300m, ot also gives you the adjustment, in moa/clicks. And if you pair it with a scope with a digital reticle. You don’t need to adjust the scope. Just range the target, and the holdover mildot illuminates.



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,946 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    "If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."

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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,647 ✭✭✭Birdnuts


    Is there something wrong with the time stamps on thread posts in the Hunting Forum atm??🤔



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,449 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    Such as?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,647 ✭✭✭Birdnuts


    The last posting there is dated 20/9/2022 - which doesn't seem right when I search the forum via accessing Shooting Sports first🤨



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,449 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    I don't see an issue with the time stamps on any other forum so it just seems to be a case of no posts since then.

    I've stuck in a test post and it's top of the listing so it seems to be working fine.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 761 ✭✭✭tonysopprano


    I reported this last week to the development team but got no reply. The "last post" is jumping around and showing random threads. This has been happening for at least 2 weeks

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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,610 ✭✭✭Feisar




  • Registered Users Posts: 2,423 ✭✭✭garrettod


    Very nice indeed.

    I'm too mean to pay for a sub to the paper, so went looking and found the full text elsewhere - hope it's from the right article :

    [quote]

    A newly developed student accommodation building in the heart of Trinity College Dublin will come with a unique offering: a firing range in its basement.

    The Printing House Square project, which has cost €60m to develop and will house 248 students when it finally opens over three years behind schedule off Dublin’s Pearse Street, will be the new home for the university’s rifle club.

    The Dublin University Rifle Club (DURC), which has been in existence for over 60 years and has 100 members, said on social media last week it expects its new underground range to open in mid-October and it hoped to open every weekday evening.

    The club trains and competes in the Olympic target shooting events that include using a small bore single loaded 5.6mm (.22 inches) calibre rifle over 50 metres and an air rifle over 10 metres.

    The new 10-lane range will be located under the student accommodation, a new Disability Hub and Health Centre.

    The shooting range is part of a sports centre that also includes squash and handball courts. There have been security concerns raised at the board of the university over the idea of having a rifle shooting range in a student accommodation building. The redeveloped building faces on to Pearse Street and the garda station located there.

    Minutes of a Trinity board meeting from January show the issue was raised with Professor Kevin O’Kelly, the building project’s lead in Trinity.

    He told board members that at an early stage of the project’s design, board members had been invited to a presentation from the rifle club and Trinity Sport.

    “He confirmed that there is a separate entrance from outside the building into the range and that there is no direct access between the accommodation and the range below,” the minutes state.

    “He also noted that the facility is very secure with the rifles themselves stored in a separate location to the ammunition and that An Garda Síochána were satisfied with the security measures in place.”

    The minutes show Linda Doyle, Trinity’s provost, said the matter could be discussed further at a future meeting. Another board member requested a visit to the new range be facilitated. This was arranged for April.

    This weekend, TCD said the DURC and its range facilities have been in existence in Trinity for over 60 years.

    “The rifle club is dedicated to the sport of Olympic target shooting, with disciplines including air rifle and small bore,” it said.

    “We believe the security arrangements around this facility are second to none. The new range at Printing House Square, Trinity College Dublin, replaces previous long-term and temporary facilities on campus, and has been developed in conjunction with best practice and the latest design regulations, as advised by the national range inspector from the Department of Justice, and a representative of An Garda Síochána.

    “The range and club operating model meet the required national safety and security standards, along with appropriate procedures and approval systems within the university.

    “DURC will continue their long-standing presence as a university club from the new Printing House Square facilities later this year.”

    A garda spokesman said gardaí in Pearse Street “have not received any application in relation to the construction of a rifle range in the Dublin 2 area”.

    In response to this, TCD said there is one final authorisation due from gardaí. “This can’t be completed until the range is fully operational and has reached the high standard required by An Garda Síochána,” it said.

    The DURC did not respond to requests for comment. [/quote]

    Thanks,

    G.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 39,098 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Seems like it was this;

    Ukrainian-made Snipex Alligator

    Fires 14.5x114mm rounds at almost 1,000m/s. Can penetrate armoured vehicles from 1.5km away.






  • Registered Users Posts: 14,946 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    Be intresting down on the Creemore in Midlands!😂

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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,647 ✭✭✭Birdnuts


    Looks like a promotional video by the Ukrainian army to recruit young lads who spend too much time in their bedrooms🤣



  • Registered Users Posts: 39,098 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    I think they’d also be targeting oul lads who spend too much time done the pub



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,946 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    If you are a young lad down in the Ukraine at the mo.You wont be in the pub or your bedroom,you'll be out putting all that Medal of Honour or Call of Duty screen time to seeing what's it like in real life,as you get conscripted out there once you are 18.

    "If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."

    Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "



  • Registered Users Posts: 761 ✭✭✭tonysopprano


    Or given latest figures of 48000 Ukrainians and 16000 other nationalities granted leave to settle in Ireland in 2022, so far, and government stats as less than 70% women and children, means that between 14400 and 19200 could be sitting in the Irish pub or bedroom or drinking in the park or on the street in any Irish town, where by the way, open drinking is against the law (only if you are Irish). Extrapolate this to include the very many countries under pressure from Ukrainian "so called refugees" and you get more realistic figures

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  • Registered Users Posts: 524 ✭✭✭BSA International


    Mall Ninjas, xbox & ps players, the tacticool crowd, the all the gear no idea crew are really taking over here now 😀

    Last few weeks there seems to have been an influx them here? Actual shooters or a fishing expedition?

    PTB must be enjoying reading here now 🤔



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,946 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    Some humour on a monday,with a good message.


    "If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."

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  • Registered Users Posts: 117 ✭✭itisnotgrand




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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,449 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    MODERATOR WARNING

    Original post moved to the off topic thread as it does not come close to being about sports shooting.

    Limited discussion of it may be permitted but as soon as it crosses into prohibited speech it'll be removed or closed.

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