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Men No Longer Want to Date, Why?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,860 ✭✭✭Pissy Missy


    Very true, though if a guy or girl had the balls to approach someone in real life and it worked out, they'd still have to cough up the money, though prob cost less over all as you'd prob be going through more unsuccessful dinner dates via online dating



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 37,732 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



  • Registered Users Posts: 155 ✭✭I Blame Sheeple


    See that terminology and all that shite coming out your face and the rest of it in your signature?

    That's why you're lonely and sad. Nothing to do with your genes, your acne, your height or whatever weird kink you shame yourself over... It's none of that. It's a lack of self awareness.

    I think women are starting to get as fed up as men nowadays with the whole dating scene. Ladies I went on dates with two years ago, who are still single now are on the verge of giving up altogether in their search.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,860 ✭✭✭Pissy Missy


    If someone hinted at a date to me and I was actually interested in the guy, id find time to meet up with them instead of saying sorry I'm busy indefinitely



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,860 ✭✭✭Pissy Missy


    I don't think you're weird, perhaps lucky, or assertive, or submissive or very aggreable. My parents fight like cats and dogs, I don't know how they're still married, perhaps the old Catholic influence and the generation they're from, but they do their own thing a lot also (not in each others hair), so I think that has been a saving grace for their marriage.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    No "basis". Just my opinion. Opinions are like *ssholes. Everybody's got them.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,860 ✭✭✭Pissy Missy


    Agreed, but meeting people like back in the day is almost non existent now, well it is in towns, when I was out in Dublin, the opportunity to meet people opened dramatically. So I think many people's options are limited and this is where online dating has come in, sadly though, 99.9% of lads are on it for the ride and 99.9% of women are on it for a meaningful relationship.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    99.9% of lads are on it for the ride and 99.9% of women are on it for a meaningful relationship.

    Wow.. that's a nice balanced view. I assume you're female/hetero, so how would you know what these 99.9% of women online are looking for?

    Whereas I'd say that a good 50% of women online are there to waste time. They just want a profile online, so that they can check messages or flirt a wee bit, while waiting for their friends to show up at the cafe. Then, there's the wide range of scammers, cheaters, etc, the casual sex crowd, and lastly... which is the smallest contingent by far, those looking for a meaningful relationship.

    I've no idea what the majority of men are looking for online. I went looking for relationships myself, and all I found were women looking for sex, and a few women looking for online friends (who would never carry over into real life). I'm sure my experience isn't the norm, but I've heard a wide variety of experiences from friends (male/female), and very few of them talk positively about it.

    And no... the majority of relationships I know of.. most of them started through the traditional methods of random meets, work, school/university, friends, toastmasters, etc. Face to face encounters not specifically aimed at dating, but gave the opportunity to meet.



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,601 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    I know people who use Tinder for validation and amusement.

    They match with someone, chat for a while, maybe show their friends the pics and chat, talk about meeting up, give excuses why they can't meet up and eventually ghost the person.

    Rinse and repeat.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,044 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    I can understand if someone has made plans with friends but if it continues for a few weeks then the conversation usually fizzles out. Meeting during the week is not ideal if you're working or living far away from the person.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,860 ✭✭✭Pissy Missy


    Okay, obviously that's not the stat, what I'm saying is more men are on it for the ride and more women are on it for a meaningful relationship.

    And yes I agree, most people I know in a relationship met in natural settings



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,107 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Nothing to do with your genes, your acne, your height or whatever weird kink you shame yourself over... It's none of that. It's a lack of self awareness.

    +1000. Of the guys I know and have known who have had the most success with women, both in relationships and random legovers, and if they found themselves single again tomorrow wouldn't be single for long, not one of them is a "chad". One is five foot five if he stands up straight with the wind to his back. Another took "dad bod" beyond a meme when he was in his twenties. Some have done well for themselves, but not in obvious areas and you wouldn't know to talk to them. Others not so much. What traits do they have? They're open. They're sociable. They're easygoing. They're interesting. They've all had headwrecking women in their lives, but don't automatically think of and paint all women as headwreckers. They engage with people and since *spoiler alert* women make up 50% of people...

    One guy I knew who was goodlooking, 6'4", great job, the whole package. He had no end of female attention alright, but was variable in finding someone good for him. Ended up with the near definition of an overbearing harpie.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,860 ✭✭✭Pissy Missy


    I think If someone is saying they're constantly busy and can't find the time and live far away from the other person, then either they find someone with the same situation or they prob shouldn't be looking for a date if they can't find the time, or they might be finding reasons not to put in the effort and be fobbing you off



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,044 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    I wouldn't say its anywhere near that skewed, especially if the apps are as hook uppy as people say there are. There would have to be a lot more than 0.1% of the women that want the ride. I agree with the rest of your post though.



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,011 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Because some people think that the internet is the solution to all their needs.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    If we were talking about people who had grown up sixty years ago, I might agree with you... but most people dating now grew up after the sexual liberation, the breaking of the church's hold on society, the freedoms of equality in society, etc.

    Women like sex just as much as men do and without the social conditioning telling them to be passive about it, they'll go looking for it. Online dating is the pinnacle of power for a woman, because online dating gives them the power to choose easily, without restrictions, and without any social judgment/condemnation which might be present in more localised societies, ie. reputation/gossip.

    Nah. I don't buy it. Women go online for sex just as much as men go online for sex... parallel to that, many men will go online to find a loving relationship, just as many women will. People are people.. the sex of that person doesn't matter as much as it once did.

    I'd say that men are generally just more direct about what they're seeking, whereas women might promote other reasons before reaching the same outcome.



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,011 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    @Wibbs One guy I knew who was goodlooking, 6'4", great job, the whole package. He had no end of female attention alright, but was variable in finding someone good for him. Ended up with the near definition of an overbearing harpie.

    And they've probably never had an argument.

    😄



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,741 ✭✭✭Greyfox


    In actual reality only the best looking men can use tinder for getting the ride, loads of men use tinder to find a relationship. It's more to do with the fact that a man knows from looking at a picture if he'd like to have sex with a woman, that's the first box that's ticked and from there the question is how much effort is he willing to put in to get the ride, most men accept that there's usually an amount of dating required before sex.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 37,732 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I'd agree with this.

    My problem is that I just can't be arsed at this point. I read, I work out, I travel and I manage my finances well but I just can't be bothered dealing with the faff of going to noisy pubs and nightclubs just to end up miserable about not pulling. I like my own quiet time far, far too much and I'm fine with it now. I know what the consequences are. I went to a friend's stag recently and his brother is in his forties. The brother has his own little semi-detached house in Dublin and lives alone. I thought that that just looks like the perfect way to be.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Retiring alone/single doesn't seem so bad when you could grow a few cannabis plants on the sly, and get yourself a dog for company.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 37,732 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I can't enjoy Cannabis any more. I've known too many twits who've made it their whole identity and one who got really paranoid towards me. It should be legal but I'm secretly glad it isn't.

    I'm more of a cat person but dogs can be nice.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,860 ✭✭✭Pissy Missy


    According to this study men are more likely to report a casual sex motivation for using tinder than women, not surprised at all. But you're entitled to your opinion of course.

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0736585316301216



  • Registered Users Posts: 563 ✭✭✭Cumhachtach


    Did boards ever do a dating thread?

    You'd match up people fairly well given posting history, interests.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,078 ✭✭✭salonfire


    I don't think this is a particularly good attitude to have, you should still put yourself out there. Even if it's just once a month, go to the pub and be merry. You don't have to be the soul of the party. Especially as you live in London, you could meet anyone if you took the chance.


    From what I gather, you're still in your 30s so young enough to keep trying. The lifestyle you've fallen into is time enough when you're in your old age. Don't throw away your good years.



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,724 ✭✭✭growleaves


    Yeah and what about book clubs, theatre groups (you can help out backstage if you don't want to act) etc. Some girls seem to hate nightclubs and feel anxious going into one.

    I've known a lot of 'nerd girls', for lack of a better term. They often struggle to meet men even when pretty but they're out there.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I'm pretty sure we covered this before. Survey bias is a consideration, in that people will often answer surveys by saying what they think is expected of them socially/culturally, than what they truly believe themselves. Also research samples tend to be on the small side, or with a limited scope rather than truly representative of the entire populations of men/women... And then, there's the small matter of different cultures which have various perspectives on sex, the roles of men/women. etc.

    But you'll believe what you want to believe.. just as you said, I'm entitled to my opinion. 😂



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Not sure why anyone is replying to a troll account thread started just to wind people up. 3 posts, 2 months ago. As you were, I suppose. As boards circles the drain cos of stuff like this.

    Like, click on the profile link of the poster before replying. It's not that hard



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,860 ✭✭✭Pissy Missy


    I'm well aware of bias, small sample size, power effect, cultural context, ethical considerations etc.

    That's it, sure it takes all sorts, and life would be boring if we all agreed on the same thing 🙃



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Imagine meeting a partner with the same porn searches as you.



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