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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,644 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    Hang on, I could say exactly the same about 'people like you'. December and January were full of posters saying we're never getting out of this/restrictions are going to be harsher, when I said the opposite. Guess what? I was right.

    You're right about government and HSE incompetence though, I'll give you that.

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES(x2), And So I Watch You From Afar



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,709 ✭✭✭Real Donald Trump




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,659 ✭✭✭Red Silurian


    2 ideas I see coming up here lately

    One is that restrictions are coming back on account of the hospital figures that we have. In March we had twice the figures in hospital and ICU and there were no restrictions

    If we don't all get vaccinated we run the risk of restrictions coming back. We had 92% vaccination last October and they rolled restrictions back after just two weeks of them being in place

    I hope I've debunked those theories...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,885 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    That farce of 8pm closing for places came in after we panicked and done SFA people binge drinking in pubs

    Yep but de variants and the fact panic could set in by our leaders. Its a game who blinks first

    99.5% of people do not want restrictions to return



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Don't Chute!


    Jaysus a few of the lads showing their true colours now eh?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,196 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Yea a few honest people left



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭kirk.


    Never apologize

    Fuk the begrudgers😀



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,659 ✭✭✭Red Silurian


    In fairness if they didn't blink in March with 1600+ cases in hospital and calls from unions/RTE etc etc I don't think they'll blink in the future

    906 In hospital this morning with COVID, up by 130 from last week and up by 221 from 2 weeks ago... Worst case it should hit 1,000 by Friday or Monday

    CMO warning of a big surge which will have an obvious effect on these figures, but an extra 600 would be a lot I think



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭323


    People of Cyprus pissed, as of Friday they're to wear masks again, whilst indoors, jabbed or not.

    So basically admitting their jabs don't work and none of this was ever about health. Already been discussed here last week, so how long before our puppets try to push restrictions again? Another two weeks, or months or years to flatten the curve.

    “Follow the trend lines, not the headlines,”



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭kirk.


    Dunno not great them coming back during summer

    Part of the problem seems to be the rules around self isolation, is there any need for all this absence from work now



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,885 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭kirk.


    That's the million dollar question

    The vaccines now don't seem to be a way out



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,644 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    It's not admitting that jabs don't work. It's a belt and braces kinda thing. They can't physically check who is vaxxed and who isn't to determine whether or not they should be wearing a mask so it's a blanket rule.

    If it's not about health, what's it about? Are you one of those that thinks it's all about control? To what end?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,885 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Possibly they are in a sense but conflicted parties having there own opinions on them

    A real kick in the gut for Vaccines could be when we see a country go back into lockdown, Ireland must still have one of the largest uptakes in them still ?



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,914 Mod ✭✭✭✭shesty


    I am very conflicted here.

    Never want restrictions back again.Ever. Masks, I am ambivalent on.Wear one if you want.

    Buuuut....I caught covid early in April.I am just about 40.Have had 3 Pfizer jabs.And to be honest, I still am not right, 12 weeks on. I am - was - a fairly fit person.Never had lung issues before, no other health issues.Covid was "just a cold" for me.Until the tenth day.Then it wasn't.

    It took me 4 weeks after the first 10 days, to get rid of the lingering ache and wheezy sensation in my chest.Closer to 6 weeks to work out the "jelly legs" feeling in my muscles.I ended up getting a sick cert for a week for work, 2 weeks after I actually tested positive.I managed 2 clear weeks 6 weeks after testing positive, and then I don't know what happened - I picked up a virus from the kids, I got a secondary virus, I haven't a clue.Either way it hit me from several angles.Very very breathless, muscles like jelly, 10 days of steroids, 2 separate antibiotics and while I was at it, tonsilitis and painful swollen glands around my neck, collarbone and underarm.Another sick cert off work.I am here about 4 weeks on from that second dose, taking puffs from a Symbicort inhaler twice a day, and supplementing with ventolin when my chest gets unbearably tight.Only in the last 4 days have I managed to get through 3 of the days with no ventolin, just the symbicort.I do not have asthma, I have never had lung issues in my life.

    I have kids and a job, and I can tell you now I do not want to get covid again.Not going through that again.I'll wear the mask, avoid the crowds but I am doing that on my own time .I don't want restrictions brought in again.And if another vaccine is offered, I will probably take it, although I had my doubts on that a few months back.But I do not want a repeat of the last 3 months.

    So fair play to you if covid is just a cold and lets you off lightly.You're lucky, tbh.It's a total lottery, no way of knowing til you catch it, so don't dismiss it too easily.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,196 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Sorry to hear Shesty . Remember us talking about how long it takes to get over it and thought you had recovered after a few weeks .

    I got over Omicron but the original dose at the beginning of the pandemic knocked me for six for a long time and I was about 2 months before I could go back to work at all never mind full time . . That year I had breathlessness , chest pain , palpitations and bone pain before finally putting it behind me a year later . Went halftime because was just physically unable to continue otherwise and am now retired .

    I know some others who like me would have been fit and active with minimal health issues , but around my age, which is no spring chicken😁 and most took a while to get back to ourselves.

    But we did , eventually , and I was in dread when I caught this again last Christmas , but thankfully it was much less virulent, although I had a worse dose than the rest of the family .

    This variant can reinfect again and again so you are right to be careful . I won't be risking my health or my family's again . However I am not wearing a mask unless I really have to and have been out and about doing everything I would have done before .

    For the majority who will be fine it is an annoyance , for some it is a nasty dose , but they recover quickly , and for another group for whom at this moment we cannot predict , the after effects are very debilitating . People really can do as they wish at this stage and I think that is the way it will continue

    I don't think MM will be making any decisions to change the status quo and doubt if Leo will either . .

    I don't think anybody wants to see a return to wholesale restrictions , but likewise nobody should be castigating others if they are cautious and want to wear masks or are concerned about high numbers of community infection .

    Best wishes for a complete recovery .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,644 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    I almost hitting twelve months since I got Covid. Energy levels still not back to what they were. Taste just about...but not quite, back to normal. Sense of smell...fúcked. Great when using a portaloo at a festival but pretty awful the rest of the time. "It's just a cold bro". Yeah...fúck off.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,941 ✭✭✭dominatinMC


    🤣

    For the love of God, will you stop talking about lockdowns ffs



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,644 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    It's like some form of Stockholm Syndrome at this stage.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,659 ✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Cyprus has a 53% vaccination rate, probably something to do with it

    Ireland is over 90% vaccinated, plus we're nearing the end of this wave, by the time any restrictions take effect it will be too late for them to have any real meaning



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭kirk.


    Does anyone have a prediction for the winter

    Please don't reply wait and see , cos that's not a prediction



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,196 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    I predict the powers that be will say ...

    " let's wait and see " ..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭kirk.


    I'm thinking advisory only on masks and and a big push on vaccination

    Who knows with these idiots , I hope someone with medical expertise is calling the shots

    Don't want some rail union leader deciding I need to wear a mask



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,196 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Sure isn't that what is going on atm ? Advisory on masks in certain situations and push on vaccination ?

    Who do you think is advising the government on this all along ?



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭Multipass


    The push on vaccination is going to need some scary new variant. Everyone’s had Omicron now, very few will be arsed with any more vaccines.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,914 Mod ✭✭✭✭shesty


    Thanks @Goldengirl .Frustrating, as I am 95% functional - thankfully never had the brain fog or fatigue problems - but I have paid so much money to my GP in recent weeks for a problem that can't be heard when they listen to my chest, and that can't be seen in my O2 levels which are 98/99% continuously.Yet there is definitely a restriction of some sort there.Hoping it will lift over time, best I can say.

    A friend working at the front line of this tells me they are seeing asthma, high blood pressure and hormonal issues as almost standard in the weeks after people catch this.Women are faring worse (which I think research backs up).In some ways I have got off lightly but still, it isn't enjoyable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,659 ✭✭✭Red Silurian


    On vaccinations I think they will, once again, be too late to the race with the vaccination push and we (as a country) will end up with a glut of vaccines in January when a 4th or 5th dose will be offered to the nation but most of us will have had covid in the preceding weeks and can't take it

    Pi will likely be more transmissable and less severe again than omicron but the govt will loose their ****, again... What exactly happens with restrictions? Pick random words out of a hat

    My prediction



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,914 Mod ✭✭✭✭shesty


    I hope not.Because despite my earlier comments about myself not shaking covid easily, seeing the emotional and mental damage those restrictions inflicted on so many people, young and old, around me - including myself - they weren't worth it for such a prolonged period.They should have been severely curtailed in their use after the first round, when we didn't know what was going on.Short sharp periods, used in conjunction with masks, social distancing and the rest.This thing of them staying in place for weeks and months should not have been allowed.

    We can argue black and blue about their usefulness, but on balance I do not think the wider, more subtle damage inflicted by them on many other fronts over such a long period, was of benefit to anybody.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,941 ✭✭✭dominatinMC


    Posters still talking about impending restrictions in the "Relaxation of Restrictions" thread, a thread which should be obsolete as all restrictions are currently relaxed. Go figure.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,941 ✭✭✭growleaves


    'Pi will likely be more transmissable and less severe again than omicron but the govt will loose their ****'

    Pi?!

    "Don't come near me, get back!...I've got the 3.14"



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,659 ✭✭✭Red Silurian



    Posts like these are the reason I love coming back to this thread

    Pi is the next in the greek alphabet after omicron, although they skipped Nu and Xi so no guarantee



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,659 ✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Would you prefer some good news? Ok then...

    Hospital COVID numbers are down today for the first time in a while and experts are saying this wave will peak next week



  • Registered Users Posts: 497 ✭✭PalLimerick


    Positive, if you like restrictions in some shape or form.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,941 ✭✭✭dominatinMC


    That's indeed good news. But it's not really a relaxation of a (non-existent) restriction..



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    They skipped Nu as it would be confused with "new variant"....and Xi would probably have people associating it with China.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,659 ✭✭✭Red Silurian


    It would suggest a greater possibility of restrictions not being reintroduced anytime soon though



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,659 ✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Yes the official reason is that globally it's a lot of peoples sur-names. Includnig the chinese premier Xi Jinping (Chinese put the sur-name first)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,653 ✭✭✭walus


    I’m not sure if you realise but the fact that Ireland is over 90% vaccinated is irrelevant at this stage. Immunity gained from those vaccines is no longer. It has been proven time and again that the mRNA vaccines were providing reasonable levels of immunity only for 8-10 weeks post injection, and have been largely useless against omicron.

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    ”Where’s the revolution? Come on, people you’re letting me down!”



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,653 ✭✭✭walus


    Of course not. It will be adjusted for inflation. ;)

    ”Where’s the revolution? Come on, people you’re letting me down!”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,246 ✭✭✭TomSweeney


    Im in Norway at the moment, Covid is not even discussed ... it's a distant memory ..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,659 ✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Except for you who needs to log on to an Irish forum to discuss it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,659 ✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Strange, the scientific evidence suggests differently, but some randomer on a web forum probably knows better, right?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,560 ✭✭✭celt262


    It's not really discussed in Ireland either apart the media are drumming it up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,659 ✭✭✭Red Silurian


    RTE headline yesterday "warning about peak in cases due next week"

    Surely a peak coming next week rather than it continuing to grow is good news, no?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,644 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    I can't remember the last time Covid was mentioned on BBC Radio Ulster or LBC. I've said it before - there's a lot to be said for not watching/listening to RTE.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    My thinking is that regardless of whether we want it or not (I certainly don't), indoor and public transport mask mandate for the winter months, say November to about end-January. It wouldn't be the end of the world, but it would absolutely suck at the same time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭kirk.


    I think it will happen and like I said already it's a quick 'fix' for politicians for the health service

    Mask mandate for flu/COVID every winter

    It was varadkar I think said they don't use mask mandates for flu but be prepared for that to go under the guise of COVID



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Don't Chute!


    Yeah but RTÉ are our national broadcaster and this just tells us all we need to know about them. They just can’t let it go.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,124 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


    Yeah cause RTÉ made a chunk of change with all the ads, that’s why.



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