Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

Sweden also has more people living alone, etc, compared to here (and places like Italy)

Where do you get your information from?

Isolated snippete of factual Information taken out of context is misinformation when dressed up with the spin you tried to put on it.

It is good to see that you recognise that I posted the facts.

I placed it in context - otherwise healthy people dying of Covid.

Some here appear to like throwing about that 'misinformation' term when they see facts that don't suit their views.

I will state yet again, that according to the CSO, 153 people died of Covid who had no other co-morbidities listed on their death certificates, during the two years 2020 and 2021.

Accept it or not that is the number.

Hope he gets well soon. I was a close contact myself a couple of weeks back. I was in a small kitchen with 3 other people. One was 80 and the other 2 late 70’s. I did notice one was coughing a bit. 2 days later the other 2 developed symptoms. I miraculously didn’t catch it. All fully recovered.

More disinformation from the poster.

You quote the information out of context.

Where is the list of co-morbidities?

What is a co-morbidity?

What is an underlying cause of death?

And then it becomes misinformation when you attach words like 'healthy' or 'deadly' and include them in your editorial on snippets of out of context information.

You can have a 'comorbidity' and live for decades. You can have a comorbidity and still be in relatively good health for your age, the condition well managed with prescription medication.

Comorbidities, while they may raise the risk of severe disease, are not necessarily the cause of death. The virus itself can be the cause of otherwise preventable death among those who had manageable health conditions.

Throughly debunked disinformation resposted again and again on this thread.

It could be an unknown comorbidity or very likely a genetic issue. Recent work in that area has identified over 1,000 genes that may be part or the puzzle.

Sure we can all speculate on lots of things.

But speculation is all it is.

I could speculate that something else killed all those who are classified as Covid deaths too .... maybe it was some other respiratory disease ... but that would be just speculation and nothing else regardless what I based it on.

Heck, I might speculate that those 153 might have had undiagnosed co-morbidities and that is what killed them. More speculation and just pointless.

The numbers I have consistently quoted are factual. Do we trust those who are responsible for filling out death certificates accurately?

I will take their numbers before any speculation. They are the facts.

153 people in two years were certified that they died from Covid alone, all others had contributory factors/co-morbidities/etc..

I have no idea why these facts are abhorrent to anyone.

The measures were brought in also to protect health service capability to treat those who would not have died very soon - unless they got covid. The median age for ICU admission was 60.

That's why there was ICU capacity and hospital available to treat them.

This is why country after country brought in measures, they weren't just looking at covid deaths, but hospital capacity.

You know this, yet pretend not to.

So unless you also look at the lives saved in the covid pandemic, you are deliberately presenting a deceptive and incomplete picture by ignoring that aspect.

So it's completely without merit or foundation to simply presume that we could have had no excess mortality without measures to contain covid.

I think if I lived in China I’d start thinking about emigration.

Countries that didn't enforce stringent interventions fared no differently to those that did. If anything they had better outcomes. The intervention strategy was a failure.