Toyota bz4X

Thanks HTC fore explaining that so well. Would I be right in thinking then with a 6.6KW battery that it would take 1 hour to use the public charger instead of 30/40 minutes.

I'm very disappointed that the BZ4X is only initially launching with a 6.6kw on-board charger. In Q4 it's shipping with an 11kw on-board charger. I'm going to ask my dealer if I can hold-off till January as I want the 11kw OBC.

A brand new designed 2022 release EV, with a 6.6kW onboard AC charger is fairly shocking in fairness…..

as I mentioned above, a lot of folk will be getting into one of these as their first EV, and they are going to be so let down by the sub standard everything on this car… Slow AC charging, slow DC charging, Very poor range/consumption figures (can’t even hit EPA range which is much more realistic than WLTP range….. (of which it hasn’t a hope), will the wheels fall off..?

Why didn't you want to install a home charger?

It's 30 mins to get 80% charge on a 150kw charger so on a 50kw charger it'll take 90 mins just to get 80%, but ESB public DC 50kw chargers have a max stay of 45 mins, otherwise they charge 4 euro-something for an over-stay fee.

Totally agree, no car manufacturer should be launching an EV in 2022 with a 6.6kw on-charger. Nissan are launching the Ariya with an 11kw OBC and then in Q4 they'll be shipping them with 22kw OBC. That's exactly what Toyota should be doing. 6.6kw is absolutely shocking. It's like selling a brand smartphone that still uses an old Nokia charger. I might cancel my BZ4X and get an Ioniq 5, although I'm not mad on the interior dashboard, the battery and charging tech is next to none.

Bad news... Dublin only has one 150kw charger located in the car park of Blanchardstown Shopping Centre beside TGI Friday's.

How many kw are the lidl ev chargers ?

Lidl and Aldi are only 7kw chargers.

Although the 6.6kw on-board charger in Bz4x is disappointing, it's really only a small thing as long as you have home charger. At the end of the day, you'll actually probably end up absolutely loving your Bz4x. I love the interior and exterior of it and once I get to sit in it I'll probably completely forget about the 6.6kw OBC.

Mention it to your dealer just to see what they think.

Good advice,thanks. I wonder would it affect the resale value of the car if you wanted to trade it in in 3 plus years…

It won't really, Toyota will still give you a decent trade-in for it in a few years.

Yeah, the BZ4X in the European market get the faster Panasonic batteries whereas the US market get the slower CATL batteries for all trims. The FWD in the European trims although will only have a max speed of 150kw on public chargers, but this really isn't an issue as such for Irish users as there's only a handful of 150kw chargers around the country anyway (only one in Dublin - in Blanch Shopping Centre car park beside TGI Friday's). There is the Ionity chargers as well and the Tesla chargers, but most Irish users for the time being will be using 50kw ESB chargers anyway. It'll still take 90 mins to reach 80% from zero, but if you have lets say, 20 or 30% charge in the car and you want to top up to 80% then, then 30 to 40 min at a 50kw charger will be sufficient for the distances that we do in Ireland. The US Youtube reviewers will complain a lot more about this as they all tend to do longer inter-state travel in the US so range would be more an issue for them.

So ... the BZ4X is almost perfectly suited for the Irish market and for Irish users and if you only do about 300km or less per week of driving generally, then you'll be totally love your BZ4X.

Hey folks, I'm over in the UK this weekend visiting a mate of mine in Sheffield and yesterday afternoon I got to pop into a Toyota dealer in Rotherham and sit in the BZ4X that they had in their showroom... All I can say is wow. I have one on order from my dealer in Ashbourne Co.Meath and now I want it even more. I've been a bit nervous about getting it since reading recent negative and average reviews on it, but I'm in love with it already.

I have to say, out of all the EV's I have ever sat in (Ioniq 5, EV6, ID.4, Skoda Enyaq) the interior is hands down the best I've ever seen. The only thing I will advise to everyone who has one on order is to get yourselves a pack of micro-fibre cloths and keep them handy in the car as the piano black centre console and the large screen (while beautiful) is going to be a fingerprint and dust magnet. The model I sat in was the FWD version, but they've different trims level names for the Bz4x in the UK to the one's in Ireland.

The dealer guy said he got to do a range test on one he's bought himself last week and he said from a full charge he drove from his home just outside Rotherham down to Oxford and back again on a single charge and that it was a round-trip of 295 miles which works out at around 475 km's and he had around 5 or 6% left on the battery when he arrived home - that's very impressive. I was chatting to him for ages and he talked me through the infotainment system and all the settings - very impressed. I'm in love with it already. I can't wait now to get mine.

I'm going ahead with it now because I have a 7kw home charger and I've a 7kw in the car park in work in Dublin and my local CIrcle K to my house has a 50kw charger so the fact that the Bz4x only has a 6.6kw on-board charger doesn't actually really matter.

There's also a 150kw charger in Blanch which I'll use if necessary when commuting up and down Dublin.

While the 475km range is impressive... that range is mild/warm summer weather battery range. I can only assume that during the cold winter months in Ireland that the range on the Bz4x will be very much reduced when driving up and down the M50. More like 350-400km I would say.

The dealer guy also said that Toyota have put in Advanced Parking Assist as standard in all trim levels as standard, but I don't see anything mentioned about that on the spec list on toyota.ie website and I haven't seen anything about that on any of the dozens of YouTube reviews that I've watched or mentioned in any online reviews.

If we do get APA on our Bz4x's it will be really great to have as it basically will park the car for you when you pull up at a parking space.

Nothing was mentioned about charging incentives as I mentioned from the off that I already had one on order in Ireland and I that I was only there to just see it and sit in it. My main concern was that I wouldn't have headroom in it as I'm 6ft 5", but I can confirm that there's enough.

The dealer guy didn't have a clue about Irish spec so didn't know if Irish buyers would get APA as standard. Apparently though he did mention that the infotainment navigation has three years free subscription, but after three years you'd have subscribe to Toyota for it, but it could be bypassed using Google Maps on Android Auto.

PS: I ordered the Sport version in Precious Metal.

I heard a reviewer call it the "Busy Forks"

Or failed to mention his rtip down the road and back was done at 45mph all the way….

Keep us up to date on the status of these carriers and let us know when their near Europe and when they dock in Dublin.