Toyota joining the game too late? I guess it’s hard to answer.
The BZ4X will turn some heads once it hits the road. I suspect it would be well in and above the RAV4 price range.
Toyota Dealer Autoweber in Germany. (Biggest Toyota dealer chain). I called them yesterday. Any car that wasn't delivered yet gets the recall sorted in either Japan or VPC (Vehicle Preparation Centre) in Changchu, China.
Cars that have been delivered to the dealer are on hold and there is no official fix presented to the dealers yet.
So yeah, that sales guy was pretty unhappy as he has few hundred unhappy customers.
Absolut shitshow tbh.
Rang several Toyota dealerships in Dublin and Meath... none of them have any delivery date info including my own Ashbourne dealer. They pretty much all said they're not been kept in the loop from Toyota Ireland.
Hi Bioscaller, looking to find out where the information regarding the issue being rectified in Japan has come from?
If that is the case I reckon it could be 6+ months :(
I was also on the phone to 2 dealers today in Germany. Autoweber Toyota in Münster and Dortmund. They have plenty of cars ready to go on their compounds but they are stuck due to the recall. There is also no internal info to the dealers yet of how this issue supposed to be rectified. They dont have parts either. Also, any car that wasn't delivered got a delay of minimum 2 months in Germany.
I received the same email, this very disappointing, I haven't pulled my deposit yet but I might in the next few days, and although disappointing, it might be a good thing as I might now hold off till the new year and get the 11kw version and I'll save a few quid more and get the premium edition as I really want the sunroof, ventilated seats, 10 speaker sound system as the BZ4X that I sat in last weekend in the UK had all the bells and whistles including the sunroof and it would be such a shame not to get it. And anyway, I read the other day that it's rumoured that Toyota might be putting in a slightly bigger battery in the BZ4X next year with added extras including battery pre-conditioning, just like Hyundai did with the Ioniq 5.
How disappointing for you Bioscaller…..thanks for the update….what a mess this has been !
Now there are more affected as they previously told me. The issue will be rectified in the manufacture plant in Japan and not by the dealer itself. Considering the amount of cars affected now. This can take anywhere between 2-6 months. I just pulled my deposit today.
Surely if the sport model is not affected (only the premiere) those cars could be released soon. Very disappointing if we have to wait until later or even the new year.
I was told mid Aug - late Aug after the recall was announced and never received any email today about further delay.
Lidl have been installing DC chargers now for the last while, anything from 28kW up to 50kW
And the AC chargers are 22kW
Will see. Waiting to hear back from them. In that case I would cancel my order and get either the 11kw version for next year or take the E-Niro or ID4.
I'm assuming they are due in Ireland on the original date and the rework will be done here? If not then I'd say it will be early next year
I have been told 16th July until todays email. Dealer has no clue about a new delivery date. T
Anyone get any timeline on the BZ4X? I was told the 10th of August last week despite the recall and now i got a generic mail indicating a delay but no timelines.
Very comprehensive review …thanks
Yeah hopefully. My dealer still has no update but says 16th July is likely. Anyway, soon and not next year. In the meantime check this brand new review. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJEUOZC8FKY
Bioscaller, I see on grandons in cork website that they state the car is arriving in early July ….wonder is that just a demo model….maybe our cars are not too far away from delivery !!
Keep us up to date on the status of these carriers and let us know when their near Europe and when they dock in Dublin.
But he wasn't selling me one so he'd no real reason to bullshit me. He was fairly honest and straight up about a lot of the car and mentioned a lot of small negatives.
Or failed to mention his rtip down the road and back was done at 45mph all the way….
Not to be an old cynic, but the dealer said the range is great? He's hardly going to tell you it's pish, is he!
I heard a reviewer call it the "Busy Forks"
I have my home charger installed since January as my misses got an Electric Mini Cooper in February. 👍
Get it now while there is still a €600 grant, leave cable wiggle room for the insulation
I also got to sit in the Nissan Ariya two weeks ago at Nissan in Navan the dealer's said delivery could be October - they weren't even sure on that. I wouldn't like to be waiting on one of those and VW almost laughed me off the phone a few weeks ago when I enquired about delivery dates for the ID.4.
The Nissan Ariya is very impressive, but for me after sitting in the Bz4x yesterday, I know I've made the right choice with it.
PS: I ordered the Sport version in Precious Metal.
If you're driving at motorway speeds in winter you won't get anything like 350-400km.
Travelling at 120km reduces range significantly in all EVs (all cars really) with the likes of the Model 3 fairing better thanks to its aerodynamics.
Edit: EVDatabase has it clicked at 270km on motorway in winter.
Nothing was mentioned about charging incentives as I mentioned from the off that I already had one on order in Ireland and I that I was only there to just see it and sit in it. My main concern was that I wouldn't have headroom in it as I'm 6ft 5", but I can confirm that there's enough.
The dealer guy didn't have a clue about Irish spec so didn't know if Irish buyers would get APA as standard. Apparently though he did mention that the infotainment navigation has three years free subscription, but after three years you'd have subscribe to Toyota for it, but it could be bypassed using Google Maps on Android Auto.
In fairness, they dont know much. There supposed to be an incentive for a wall charger and free charging card involved like in Germany but there hasn't been anything confirmed or announced for Ireland. Did they mention anything in the UK if there are any extras that come with the car?
While the 475km range is impressive... that range is mild/warm summer weather battery range. I can only assume that during the cold winter months in Ireland that the range on the Bz4x will be very much reduced when driving up and down the M50. More like 350-400km I would say.
The dealer guy also said that Toyota have put in Advanced Parking Assist as standard in all trim levels as standard, but I don't see anything mentioned about that on the spec list on toyota.ie website and I haven't seen anything about that on any of the dozens of YouTube reviews that I've watched or mentioned in any online reviews.
If we do get APA on our Bz4x's it will be really great to have as it basically will park the car for you when you pull up at a parking space.
Yeah I am not too concerned about that myself. Have a zappi at home and free charging in work. For long trips like Galway, Cork etc. there is plenty of fast chargers around so that will be sufficient. I am just concerned about the delivery. Dealers dont really know and they keep too quiet imo.
