Covid vaccines - thread banned users in First Post

I used Newtonian physics to figure it out, do you disagree with that method? ;)

Btw, I completely agree, if the virus didn't exist (does SARS-COV2 exist Markus? Has it been isolated yet?) then getting a vaccine for a non-existent disease would be silly (we've been kind of lucky to continue the polio vaccines given what occurred in the UK, very nasty disease).

Tell me that you agree or disagree with the following statement:

Man has visited the moon.

There's loads of examples so you mightn't have been trying too hard, there's a pretty sad one of a 16 year old in perfect health who died from coronavirus, he was unlucky enough to be born in one of the GOP states in the US which had low vax rates and would undoubtedly be alive today with a vaccine, anti-vaxxers are dangerous idiots responsible directly for human misery.

I'm not going to be posting links to tragic events about the death of young people in a one upmanship contest, but Google is your friend here, there is lots and lots of examples, I mentioned just 1 of many. There's a reddit subreddit as well with lots of examples, but it's fairly morose.

Your credibility is kind of shot here.

But it would prove that anti-vaxxers are too stupid to use the Internet, so you're proving one thing at least.

Have you any evidence that this is actually happening and that it's due to the vaccines?

You're letting your mask slip again there man.

No, you're being vague because you're still trying to pretend that you're not a anti-vaxx conspiracy theorist.

If you have a point, make it directly and support it with evidence.

Cause so far, you've been showing that you have no point and you have no evidence.

It’s like Phishy cloned himself and there are many of his accounts posting here over the last few weeks.

Well done. Youve pointed out a raw statistic that literally anyone can look up. There isn't even a consensus in the USA on how covid deaths are counted. Some states will count car accident victims as covid deaths if they test positive as it allows the hospital claim money from the government. Other states don't allow that. Those figures are absolutely meaningless. I've absolutely no doubt some of Americas chronically obese young people have died of covid, the fact many of them weight 300+ lbs by the age of 13 means America has absolutely enormous health issues.

But we werent talking about u healthy people were we? Astrofool specifically claimed lots of healthy young people die of covid without providing a shred of evidence. Surely when deaths of healthy young people are so common people can just post some links to stories/biographies of these strapping young athletic men and women who are dropping dead on a daily basis. For some reason all the athletes that I'm finding who died of covid competed in the 1956 Olympics or were sumo wrestlers/body builders and nfl linebackers...athletes who all have a habit of dropping dead very suddenly anyway. Haven't seen many Premier league footballers retired due to complications from Covid.

Nonsense. Sick people die all the time. That's not a surprise. "Othering"....sure, that's good stuff. Keep it coming.

This line of discussion opened from the following quote by igotadose which astrofool decided to jump in on. This is the what I'm asking for evidence of:

"Young people die from Covid all the time. Some with no comorbidities, even some athletes die from it. Unvaccinated more likely to die from it."

So yes, your figures are completely useless and redundant when it comes to providing evidence of healthy young athletes with no comorbidities dying. That's a very different demographic than the sick and obese don't you think? Also, why did you refer to the USA when we live in Ireland. I guess showing a graph with 0 deaths of people under 14 and less than 10 under the age of 30 wouldn't provide the shock factor you want.

But let me guess, I'm still dishonest and trying to weasel out of your hard evidence to a question I didn't ask?

This was the post:

"post evidence of the thousands of young people and athletes"

I did.

If young people can die from Covid in the US, they could die from Covid here, it is just a numbers game, it is the same virus. So it has the capacity to kill young people. It has the capacity to kill children. It has the capacity to kill people with no co-morbidities.

Nowhere in your original post did you specify "must be in Ireland". So we see the classic tactic of the conspiracy theorist, when cornered in a lie, shift the goalposts.

That they didn't die in Ireland is a factor of our restrictions and health service capacity being there to treat them.

In the UK and Ireland, the median age of 291 children (300 care episodes) admitted to ICU with a positive SARS-CoV-2 PCR from March 2020 to June 2021 was ten years. Invasive ventilation was required in 49% of care episodes for a median of five days.5,6 In the UK, between March 2020 and February 2021, 25 children and adolescents died of COVID-19. Of these six (24%) had no underlying condition. Five deaths (20%) were in those aged 5 - 9 years and nine (36%) in those aged 10 - 14 years.

https://rcpi-live-cdn.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/NIAC-Recommendations-on-COVID-19-vaccination-for-children-aged-5-to-11-years.pdf

5% of ICU admissions in Ireland were for the age group 15-34.

Your contempt for sick people is morally bankrupt. Your posts are intellectually dishonest and deliberately worded to deceive. So yes, weasel words at best if not outright lies.

The statement was: "Young people die from Covid all the time. Some with no comorbidities, even some athletes die from it. Unvaccinated more likely to die from it."

Each piece of the statement has been proven. In response you have nothing except lies, shifting of goalposts and weasel words. Tactics so transparent we've seen them all before. But facts are stubborn things.

As I said, you don’t understand what sealioning is, so don’t be using it out of context to make it sound like you do. I’m not the one that wants to stifle discussion. I am not the one that wants forums shut down because people may disagree with me or ask me questions. That’s the crowd your surround yourself with. Go read the feedback thread again and you may eventually figure it out.

Again. You have claimed that all space flight is fake.

How is this grounded in science?