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Men No Longer Want to Date, Why?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,851 ✭✭✭gameoverdude


    Different strokes klaz.

    I'm boring. Home before 23:00.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,948 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I didn't know singles bars were a thing. Honestly.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    They are abroad.. haven't seen them in Ireland. It's rare to find a dedicated singles bar, usually they have a variety of nights which are exclusively for singles. Typically there's a membership scheme to verify the state of people being single as opposed to cheating, but it really depends on the bar. Some places are rather relaxed about that, others were very strict.

    Single bars are quite popular in Asia, I've been to a few of them in the US (New York), and in Germany/France.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,948 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    For some it's variety, for some it's too much choice. There's always something better (if you're a woman) next. That's for whatever percentage actually use it to meet up.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 642 ✭✭✭gary550


    Ah yes, one minor mistake and I'm suddenly illiterate. Nice spot mate bet you feel all fuzzy on the inside.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,628 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    Unless he's 6"4 and some sort of sports personality any young Irish women I would be acquaintances with absolutely do not want strangers approaching them. They would rather talk to Larry Murphy online as opposed to a stranger approaching them in real life

    A normal guy trying to strike up conversation will get a one word answer and a frosty reception.

    British women (or most foreign women) are far more open in general than their Irish counterparts



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,016 ✭✭✭growleaves


    I consider a social event a warm social environment. If you approach someone at a meetup group, it's not like going up to someone on the street. Get the event organiser to introduce you to people if shy.

    Meeting people is half the reason people go to these things.

    Striking up a conversation with a girl at the bar or smoking area, you might get shut down in a terse, unfriendly or sarcastic way or you might get into a conversation.

    There's no way for a timid or sensitive person to avoid all possibility of rejection. It sucks but that's how it is. Your self-esteem has to be grounded.

    Can wait patiently for nonverbal signals such as a girl smiling or glancing in your direction. But even then lots of guys wouldn't even pick up on it.

    Most Irish guys aren't hideous.

    Biggest problem is timidity imo.

    Also when someone gets overly intellectual or informational in conversation with the opposite sex I cringe. A beautiful woman/handsome man doesn't want to hear about your sociological theory. Make a joke or tell a fun-sounding story.

    I can only speak from experience and how it seems to me. I have female friends who will chat to anyone. I accept that some women just won't.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,026 ✭✭✭YellowLead


    I think mcgowans in phibsboro has them upstairs on a Friday night



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,851 ✭✭✭gameoverdude


    Neither did I. Sounds depressing. Might be fun.

    I saw the later posts. Ignore me.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,851 ✭✭✭gameoverdude


    That's bollox. Seriously you've never been waiting for a drink at the bar or a coffee and talk crap to the person next to you?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,851 ✭✭✭gameoverdude




  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Depends on how it's done. The places I've been to were rather classy joints with a dress code, nice bar/lounge area, and good background music. Some places will take your details, and invite people to meet you. Others have an app for your phone which send messages to a large screen. Can be quite a bit of fun, although it's more of a city thing. There needs to be a decent population of singles nearby to keep it fresh, but it's good for initial encounters.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 984 ✭✭✭Still stihl waters 3




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,851 ✭✭✭gameoverdude


    After seeing the later I kinda can see it.

    The initial vision in my mind was meat market and pawsy. Not appealing.

    But an older gang, bit more confidence, could be a bit of fun.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Average age tends to be early 30s through to 50s. Men are likely to be a bit older than the average ages of the women. People with money in their pockets (professionals rather than wealthy), although it's not a creepy Sugar Daddy vibe. A little more expensive than the average pub.. but not so much that you'd notice the difference. (TBH considering how much it cost me on my last night out in Dublin, it's probably cheaper overall) Plus they tend to have late night licenses so keep going the same as the clubs (4-5am)

    If you're ever in Singapore or Tokyo, they've got some of the biggest selection of singles bars I've seen anywhere.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,851 ✭✭✭gameoverdude


    I prefer the older crowd (not single and won't cheat). So I won't see it, but am curious.

    When you mention am, I'm out.

    I dunno, having 3/4 on the go at the same time seems tiring and boring (I know you didn't say that). It's what I've seen. Totally pointless. If you're looking for a shag, it's not hard to get! Why beat around the bush...so to speak.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,142 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    You use appalling language to describe women throughout the thread.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 984 ✭✭✭Still stihl waters 3


    Like what, I'd call men the same, I don't discriminate



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I gave up on the dating multiple people years ago. I don't have the energy or the patience, because if you're doing that, then they're doing the same thing.

    I haven't been interested in "just a shag" for a long time now... and I'd be similar to you in regards to not cheating. Nah. I am single now, but I tend to date people for long periods, hoping for something even longer, but I'm not crying in my cups if it doesn't work out, and I'm back to being single.

    Had a girlfriend when I left China to come home for a 2 week holiday, and covid intervened.. couldn't expect her to remain with me during that, and while I've dabbled with dating here, I haven't had much luck. Nobody has really gotten me fascinated in them yet, but here's hoping.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,142 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    Your language is very derogatory, misogynistic and judgemental throughout the thread.

    Who refers to women as weird bitches.?

    Most people would not use those type of belitting terms to refer to anyone, men or women.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,142 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    I think this talking to a stranger online is a generational thing and not unique to men or women.

    I asked a young person in the office to make a booking for me. A week later the booking was not made. The person kept sending emails and whoever was at the end was not coming back to them.

    I asked about the booking and they said they had sent 3 emails but no response. Knowing the venue is a bit old school, I said they might not be that great on mail, will you give them a call please. They looked at me totally shocked and terrified at the thought of having to phone up.

    So its a lot easier to "talk" to someone behind a screen, even if its aul Larry in his white van as you said.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,851 ✭✭✭gameoverdude


    Apologies. I didn't frame my post correctly. I want suggesting you were out for just a shag (completely without fulfillment)

    It's more my age and experience, I've no interest in transient relationships. It's boring. Not enough love in thee world.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    Depending on where you work, things might have to be recorded via email. It just becomes second nature. Even internal emails in a large organisation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,142 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    People still use phones to communicate and request information. If no one getting back to you via email, common sense would be to follow up and see why not rather than just sending mails into a black hole.

    Call: Hi, I sent you a mail on x date, can you come back to me? I need a written response for sign off, thanks!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    In plenty of places you would need to send the email as a record. Depends on what you are doing I suppose and what kind of audits you might be subject to. You could ring too but things need to be in email - unless you have a secure recorded line



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,142 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    I've already said, person sent 3 emails and no response. It does not take a week for a response. So something is wrong.

    Common Sense Again: You send 3 emails, you get no response.

    In order to get a response, you ring and ask for a response to your mail.

    In most roles, people are expected to get the job done and not just send mails forever into outer space, I fully realise common sense and getting the job done were not a priority under the Trump administration.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It's more my age and experience, I've no interest in transient relationships. It's boring. Not enough love in thee world.

    Actually, I think you've hit the nail on the head there. All these freedoms, and the ability to have "love" or sex in such a casual manner has taken a lot of the "umpf" out of being with other people. Oh, sure, there's a lot of fun to be had when you're young (although I think even that's exaggerated alot unless you're particularly hot or wealthy), but once you've had a series of sexual relationships, it becomes kinda tedious.

    Whenever I see posters talking "hard" about sex, I just think they're not getting any. Scarcity mentality, tends to focus the mind and attitude on sex... but when you're getting plenty of good or great sex, it stops being so important. It's the relationship itself, the connection, the intimacy, the trust, the fascination, that becomes important.. and it seems so scarce now. It's so easy to become jaded when you're single for extended periods.

    Like I think of my parents. My mother had one boyfriend before my father, and my father had two girlfriends. For both, they were non-sexual (apparently, but I do kinda believe them) until they met and dated, and the sex didn't happen until they had declared their seriousness to each other. Marriage came quickly after.. although perhaps too quickly considering when my eldest brother was born. Still.. there was an innocence to their relationship, that I don't think I've ever experienced myself. And now, I'm not going to.

    I do think we've lost something important when it comes to intimacy and relationships, in this mad dash to show how free we are, and that we can have sex whenever we want. It stops being important so quickly... Oh, I appreciate there are still people who "fall in love" early in life, and have had very few partners, but they're an extreme minority among the people I know.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,886 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    I've no interest in transient relationships. It's boring. Not enough love in thee world.

    But on the other hand

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,142 ✭✭✭✭anewme




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