Donald Trump discussion Thread IX (threadbanned users listed in OP)

Is the result in yet on whether Oz or McCormick won the election or is the counting of postal ballots still in progress?

I know the postal vote is an issue [big for some] in the election just hope it wont be used by the candidates themselves as an excuse for the voters not giving them the benefit of the ballot or fall [deliberately or otherwise] for the Trump postal-vote rabbit-hole. I saw a short interview this afternoon on CNN of the third candidate and it [to me] seemed like a train-wreck. The interviewer asked her about some comments of hers from the past indicating a bias against two sections of US society and her rebuttal was to attack the media and accuse it of misusing and misrepresenting the contents of her comments, that her opinions and stance on the particular issues had changed. She didn't state that the media misrepresenting the contents of her posts was CNN, it was the media in general.

I'd have to dive deep into the candidates background for at least a decade [maybe even prior to the availability of Twitter and other public sites] to get a good reading of where they STOOD and STAND on issues involving sections of US voters at personal levels. As politics is the issue, sanity of the candidates doesn't seem to count where their electoral comments and statements are concerned, as soundbites seem to get the votes in.

McCormick is a billionaire who was responsible for shipping plenty of jobs to China something which his opponent Fetterman should have a lot of fun with.

Oz is snake oil salesman but he clearly has charisma and will have the full backing of Trump and the establishment Republicans. I think he will look at Youngkin in Virginia, yes keep Trump happy but try and keep him at arm's distance.

Oz is favorite simply because it could be a red wave, but the worry for him is the governor they have chosen for the same state is a lunatic who could drag down the whole GOP ticket in that state.

Chris Christie, George Bush and a lot of the GOP establishment have rocked up behind Kemp.

Kemp if you are a Republican has governed quite conservatively, passed a restrictive abortion bill, loosened gun laws, very pro big business and also had a much more laisses faire attitude to covid than Trump who actually at the time criticized him for not locking down. He also passed a restrictive voting bill which was cheered by pretty much every GOP person bar Trump who obviously said it did not go far enough.

His numbers are solid enough in Georgia so can understand the GOP wanting him to win and their is still a lot of bitterness towards Trump for losing the two Georgia senate seats in 2021 which was mainly due to Trump telling people that voting doesn't matter and Perdue running a wretched campaign where he literally had nothing to say bar "MAGA" .

Its all very bizarre, Perdue has spent only a few million of his personal savings on this campaign which is pennies for him and only agreed to run because Trump pestered him into doing it and obviously his ego at the time got the best of him. From all accounts he has eased up in the last week or two also despite been 30 points down in the polls.

Their is also the even more bizarre sub plot of some in the middle who may even lean towards the Dem in November favoring Kemp because they have watched Perdue debase himself twice for Trump and don't want to take a chance in him winning in November even if he would be the easier candidate for Stacy Abrams to beat.

In amusing news Mo Brooks who had his endorsement from Trump rescinded because he slightly eased up on the "stop the steal" drivel has actually surged somewhat since then. Trump called Mo "woke" at the time which is hilarious as Mo is anything but that, the Dem equivalent would be an AOC primary challenger calling her a "white supremacist.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/22/trump-mo-brooks-alabama-senate-00034249

Its a great question.

And also the issue is how hard can you go after Trump as even if you win you will need to keep him happy as a chance he could threaten running as an independent out of spite which would hand the presidency to the Dems. I can understand the likes of Hailey and RDS who are young thinking its not worth the hassle.

Their is a few Republicans who have zero chance of winning such as Larry Hogan who is probably salivating at the thought of going after Trump on the debate stage though.

I have read articles about blue state governors like Larry Hogan and Chris Sunanu running along with Mitt Romney. All three of those are vocally anti Trump and while the media can dream about them winning a primary their is zero chance of anyone running on a strong anti Trump campaign winning.

Realistically if you are a GOP donor and want Trump gone, best case scenario is to get behind a DeSantis and console yourself with the fact he won't spend all his time tweeting rubbish.

Jeb loves RDS for what its worth.

The Bush brigade loath Trump but they will always back him over a Dem sadly. Trump for all his populist bluster didn't govern that differently than them unfortunately. The tax cuts for example were adored by all the "moderate" GOP folks for example. Ultimately the problem the "establishment " GOP have with Trump is they think he is a moron rather than his policies. Someone like Mitch for example who loves reading books would loath been in his presence unless their was something in it for him.

I don't really see how you beat Trump at all, ideally all get behind one candidate and all the also rans drop out early, but the egos that will be running and they will all have massive war chests so they will all overstay their welcome.

Imagine telling Cruz to drop out early for example to rally behind someone to beat Trump?😂

Any plan to beat Trump has sounded like West wing fan fiction sadly.

I had hoped he would have got distracted with truth social or ideally legally not be allowed to run , but "pigs flying " etc.

If you want to go down a dark road, maybe health reasons, he looked in terrible shape in his Piers Morgan interview. He definitely lost a good amount of weight last year, but sadly I suspect he is one of those people when it comes to weight it doesn't take much for him to lose discipline and put it back on.