Donald Trump discussion Thread IX (threadbanned users listed in OP)

Looking good for the GOP in November, but the concern for the GOP establishment has always been trying to keep the Trump MAGA loons to a minimum in blue/Purple states, sadly for them Pennsylvania could be a serious issue.

Do you think a MAGA "Stop the steal" candidate would have won the Virginia governor race , a state which Biden won very easily?

The hardcore MAGA vote is important but if that was the only GOP voting constituency they would be goosed for November .

The freaks like MTG make a lot of noise but in the grand scheme of things are irrelevant when it comes to the GOP powerbase.

You cannot separate out the Trump supporters from the GOP, they are one in the same. They stood by Trump when he said that Neo Nazis had good people in their ranks. They stood by when Trump said the insurrectionists of 6th Jan were brave people. They voted for him in November.

While of course it isn't only them that voted for him, they have decided to align themselves and accept the like of MTG and the rest. One cannot claim that somehow MTG isn't a GOP'er, or represents the GOP.

Of course every party has its radicals, and MTG would probably fall into that, but not when the leader is Trump, as she is really just parroting his line.

The 'Stop the steal' is Trumps line, and thus the GOP have lined up behind him.

Is the result in yet on whether Oz or McCormick won the election or is the counting of postal ballots still in progress?

I know the postal vote is an issue [big for some] in the election just hope it wont be used by the candidates themselves as an excuse for the voters not giving them the benefit of the ballot or fall [deliberately or otherwise] for the Trump postal-vote rabbit-hole. I saw a short interview this afternoon on CNN of the third candidate and it [to me] seemed like a train-wreck. The interviewer asked her about some comments of hers from the past indicating a bias against two sections of US society and her rebuttal was to attack the media and accuse it of misusing and misrepresenting the contents of her comments, that her opinions and stance on the particular issues had changed. She didn't state that the media misrepresenting the contents of her posts was CNN, it was the media in general.

I'd have to dive deep into the candidates background for at least a decade [maybe even prior to the availability of Twitter and other public sites] to get a good reading of where they STOOD and STAND on issues involving sections of US voters at personal levels. As politics is the issue, sanity of the candidates doesn't seem to count where their electoral comments and statements are concerned, as soundbites seem to get the votes in.

McCormick is a billionaire who was responsible for shipping plenty of jobs to China something which his opponent Fetterman should have a lot of fun with.

Oz is snake oil salesman but he clearly has charisma and will have the full backing of Trump and the establishment Republicans. I think he will look at Youngkin in Virginia, yes keep Trump happy but try and keep him at arm's distance.

Oz is favorite simply because it could be a red wave, but the worry for him is the governor they have chosen for the same state is a lunatic who could drag down the whole GOP ticket in that state.

Chris Christie, George Bush and a lot of the GOP establishment have rocked up behind Kemp.

Kemp if you are a Republican has governed quite conservatively, passed a restrictive abortion bill, loosened gun laws, very pro big business and also had a much more laisses faire attitude to covid than Trump who actually at the time criticized him for not locking down. He also passed a restrictive voting bill which was cheered by pretty much every GOP person bar Trump who obviously said it did not go far enough.

His numbers are solid enough in Georgia so can understand the GOP wanting him to win and their is still a lot of bitterness towards Trump for losing the two Georgia senate seats in 2021 which was mainly due to Trump telling people that voting doesn't matter and Perdue running a wretched campaign where he literally had nothing to say bar "MAGA" .

Its all very bizarre, Perdue has spent only a few million of his personal savings on this campaign which is pennies for him and only agreed to run because Trump pestered him into doing it and obviously his ego at the time got the best of him. From all accounts he has eased up in the last week or two also despite been 30 points down in the polls.

Their is also the even more bizarre sub plot of some in the middle who may even lean towards the Dem in November favoring Kemp because they have watched Perdue debase himself twice for Trump and don't want to take a chance in him winning in November even if he would be the easier candidate for Stacy Abrams to beat.

In amusing news Mo Brooks who had his endorsement from Trump rescinded because he slightly eased up on the "stop the steal" drivel has actually surged somewhat since then. Trump called Mo "woke" at the time which is hilarious as Mo is anything but that, the Dem equivalent would be an AOC primary challenger calling her a "white supremacist.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/22/trump-mo-brooks-alabama-senate-00034249

Its a great question.

And also the issue is how hard can you go after Trump as even if you win you will need to keep him happy as a chance he could threaten running as an independent out of spite which would hand the presidency to the Dems. I can understand the likes of Hailey and RDS who are young thinking its not worth the hassle.

Their is a few Republicans who have zero chance of winning such as Larry Hogan who is probably salivating at the thought of going after Trump on the debate stage though.

I have read articles about blue state governors like Larry Hogan and Chris Sunanu running along with Mitt Romney. All three of those are vocally anti Trump and while the media can dream about them winning a primary their is zero chance of anyone running on a strong anti Trump campaign winning.

Realistically if you are a GOP donor and want Trump gone, best case scenario is to get behind a DeSantis and console yourself with the fact he won't spend all his time tweeting rubbish.