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The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread V3

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,112 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Bruce Arians is retiring from coaching and heading to the Bucs' front office, Todd Bowles takes over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,030 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    Overtime rules changed in playoffs. Both teams get a possession. If the score is 0-0, 3-3, 7-7, 8-8 after each have a possession then sudden death.

    Changes the dynamic in interesting ways. There's a case to be made for receiving first rather than possessing as you 'know what you have to do'. Though the fact that the third possession will be sudden death will probably still mean teams will receive. The most fun scenario will be if team A scores 7, then team B scores a touchdown. Will Team B go for a 2 point conversion?

    Though sods law will probably mean the next 20 years of play-offs won't have an OT game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,933 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Arians health is most likely the reason for that. Delighted for Bowles, I think he's a great coach and will do very well there. He foolishly took an opportunity with the toxic Jets a few years back. I pity any coach that takes a chance with the Jets, it can set your career back.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,349 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    That whole thing is very strange. Rumours of issues between Brady and Arians as Brady announces that he is leaving the Bucs (never using the word retirement). Arians retires either just before or just after Brady announces he's coming back (after the Glazers had him in Old Trafford). Arians claims that he chose to retire to help Bowles when if true he could have left Bowles with a much stronger team by retiring a season earlier. Absolutely no word that Brady is unhappy with coming out of retirement and his HC leaving. Really stinks that either Brady got the Glazers to push Arians into the front office or Arians decided he'd rather move to a cushy job in the front office rather than deal with his issues and politics with Brady.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,111 ✭✭✭Christy42


    Sounds like people trying to make up a story



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,237 ✭✭✭✭paulie21


    My thoughts were that Brady was asked to do one more year to ease the HC transition. Could be wrong though



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,237 ✭✭✭✭paulie21




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,349 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    Brady only has one more year on his contract and the Bucs said they weren't trading him even when 'retired' without the other team paying a load of picks. If Brady plays another year after this coming season I very much doubt it'll be with the Bucs.

    No one really knows aside from Brady and Arians themselves but the story they're telling doesn't match the actions of those involved.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,349 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    Need to see the details of the contract to see how much salary this really is taking up but they're going for more star power while letting depth go out the door. Surely they can't continue to be lucky when it comes to injuries.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,237 ✭✭✭✭paulie21




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,613 ✭✭✭Shedite27


    Dolphins and Patriots seem one of the more common inter-divisional switches, Plenty of player overlap between both of them, Welker obviously the most famous trade



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,933 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    There hasn't been that many between them. Belichick loves this one for sure though, he's praised him in interviews many times.

    "He's got a very, very good skill set," Belichick said of Parker.

    "He's a big athlete that runs well, has good hands, good run-after-the-catch ability, and good quickness for his size. He presents a lot of problems on deep balls. He's a big target on the end of routes in-cuts and crossing routes. He's strong, can break tackles as a catcher or run player, so he attacks all three levels of the defense and can be productive at all three [receiver spots]."

    That was two years ago.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,613 ✭✭✭Shedite27


    Yeah maybe not trades but loads that play for one and then the other immediately after - Amendola, Bolden, Van Noy, Adam Butler, McCourty, Seau, Rowe that I can think of. Welker and Parker might be the only trades



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,728 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    I wonder what "the right price" is? He's a FA next year so I don't think he's worth a top 15 pick with the receiver talent available in the draft. Maybe 2 2nds?

    I can't see DK being happy to stay and have Lock throwing to him unless Seattle pay him big money this off season.

    I'd love to see him in Chicago. He's a Bears fan too (his dad was a Bear for 7 years) and he wanted the Bears to draft him.





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,933 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Hard to know where he'd go. The Texans must have loads of cap space and with young Davis Mills looking very promising, a receiver like Metcalf could turn their whole offense around.

    The Jags could do with an elite receiver too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,349 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    Not sure I get this one from a Patriots perspective. He is a good player but consistently injured and I would have thought they'd want someone more explosive than Parker to make the most of Jones' skillset. Parker had his best season with Fitzmagic playing yolo ball which I doubt the Patriots are suddenly going to shift to. I get he has a cheapish contract but it is only due to some poor moves last offseason that they couldn't afford Cooper or even Woods for less draft capital.

    It is always a scary proposition trading in division but presume Dolphins are happy with the move. They saved cap space of a guy who was never going to see much of the ball even if he could stay healthy - McDaniel game plan will likely be heavy run focus, at that stage he is their 4th or 5th target option, and he doesn't fit the type of receiver that would get a large target share (more for guys with bigger YAC ability while getting a cheap guy to be possession receiver). Dolphins have really have set themselves up well to make a move for a QB in either trade or draft next year if Tua doesn't work out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,349 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    Going rate for a young top tier WR is at least a first - Cooks was traded twice for a 1st plus another pick and Cooper was traded for a 1st.

    Agree that a top 15 pick is too rich though. You'd want to play a certain style and QB to make the most of DK - Wilson was a near perfect QB for him. Whether he stays in Seattle or moves he is going to get a very big payday (I'd guess at least $23m APY in new money) so you'd want to know you can make the most of the investment or he'll be a disappointment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,737 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    According to a former team employee the Washington Commanders withheld ticket revenue that they are required to give to the NFL who then distribute it to the other 31 teams. He should’ve been made to sell the team after the other crap he allowed to happen, but maybe the other owners will move on him if it’s true that he stiffed them on money.



  • Posts: 10,091 ✭✭✭✭ Jasper Fit Pedestrian


    If they can agree to a deal with him green bay should absoloutly give one of their firsts for him. He'd fit perfectly with rodgers



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,737 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,333 ✭✭✭cosatron


    The saints must really like a qb. I think they got fleeced



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,146 ✭✭✭Mr. Guappa


    I agree, Eagles snapped their hand off accepting that trade I'd say. I wonder if the Saints are planning another trade to move up again, packaging those 2 firsts I guess. Eagles nicely placed with 2 firsts next year if Hurts doesn't convince.



  • Posts: 10,091 ✭✭✭✭ Jasper Fit Pedestrian


    Happy with that as an eagles fan. I'm not sold on Hurts at all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,349 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    Great trade from an Eagles perspective - consensus that this is a weak enough draft and with 3 1sts it was obvious they'd be very interested in getting one next year and yet still got a lot from the Saints.

    Can't see what the Saints are doing at this stage - if they want a certain QB they'll likely need to move up further so why not make the bigger jump up at this stage, either directly with one of the earlier teams or in a three way trades. Don't think an unknown extra mid-round pick is worth what they paid in this draft, especially with the risk of their 2023 pick being pretty early (new HC, depleted roster, a post serious injury Jameis or a rookie QB leading).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,933 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    McDaniels is the head coach of the Raiders.

    There has only been one player traded to New England from Miami during the Belichick era, that was Wes Welker.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,613 ✭✭✭Shedite27


    Saints were at 19 and Chargers at 18. Now Saints are at 17. From reading some reports this morning, both of those teams need a new Offensive Tackle, so it might just be a case of getting ahead of the Chargers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,349 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    That might be it but to me it still makes no sense.

    On draft night if a guy you want falls and you want to jump ahead of a team that has the same need then it could be a move to make, though I’m not a fan of paying a lot to move up for a non-QB. However, in this situation they have no idea if that guy they like will fall that far and even then the Chargers can still trade up ahead of them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,333 ✭✭✭cosatron


    i say they are going to trade the picks and move up for a QB, its the only logical explanation



  • Posts: 13,753 ✭✭✭✭ Rosalie Wailing Pennon


    @Foxtrol and @eagle eye put your reputations on the line...

    Who will be the best QB in the 2022 draft?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,146 ✭✭✭Mr. Guappa


    But they didn't just move up, they now have two first rounders. If they wanted to jump ahead of the Chargers they could have just moved up without the need to add an extra first rounder. To me, it makes no sense unless it's the first in a series of moves to get into the early picks and take a QB.



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