The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread V3

Blut2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119389360#Comment_119389360

The Guardian has an article on this that has a very revealing quote from him:

"“I think I was blessed with the cognitive skills to just go out there and just see it before it happens,” Murray told the Times. “I’m not one of those guys that’s going to sit there and kill myself watching film. I don’t sit there for 24 hours and break down this team and that team and watch every game because, in my head, I see so much.”"

The sheer ego that shines through from a 24 year old in the NFL saying that. He doesn't need to watch film because hes so good!

Its in direct contrast to Brady and other QBs who're well known for doing massive amounts of film work in their spare time, even after a decade+ playing in the NFL.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/jul/26/kyler-murray-will-reportedly-default-230m-contract-if-he-does-not-study-film

eagle eye

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119390003#Comment_119390003

'I see so much' from a guy who can hardly see over the line of scrimmage. 😂

paulie21

Julio Jones signs a 1 year deal to play with the Bucs.

eagle eye

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119391839#Comment_119391839

And he'll most likely have one of the best years of his career. He's back with his old teammate too, Russell Gage.

The player I'm expecting really big things from is Breshad Perriman. He had a great season there a few years back. I think after a full camp with Brady we'll see the talent that made him a first round pick for the Ravens back in '15 or '16 I think it was.

Itssoeasy

https://twitter.com/aroundthenfl/status/1552794027090595840?s=21&t=fVEG_TpiKZuFHuab6MbjeQ

Good move by the Seahawks to lock up Metcalf.

Blut2

Not sure how much value they'll get out of him when they have nobody to throw the ball to him, though.

Itssoeasy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119403173#Comment_119403173

Jimmy G possibly ? Well they currently have nobody Good to throw him the ball.

Id love to know how Kyler Murray believed the press conference yesterday was going to help things and yes the cardinals removed the Clause about independent study, but again the fact that it was in there and as @el Fenomeno said that there was very specific language in it is the issue. And he went at the media and fans for being “disrespectful” which is so stupid. None of us put it in to the contract ffs.

Cardinals were never in a million years gonna hit the reset button on their successful #1 pick which is why they should have tied things up long ago.

Their major fault was waiting so **** long to get it signed. The QB market took a huge jump with Rodgers/Watson and they had no choice but to pay Murray an inflated contract.

Christy42

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119403173#Comment_119403173

Bryce Young and CJ Stroud are decent options to throw him the ball. I suspect they are the plan. I can see them and the Falcons avoiding Jimmy G even if/when he does get cut as Jimmy would win enough games to ruin the tank without making them good. Teams don't tank but front offices do.

BonnieSituation

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119403173#Comment_119403173

The disrespect to Drew Lock. Well I never.

Christy42

Initial ruling is 6 games for Watson. With a talented roster Bisset could pick up a few wins and keep them in the hunt for play offs if Watson returns at his old form.

God I hope he has forgotten how to throw a football and the Browns go down in flames.

Ohmeha

Watson and the Browns must be breathing a huge sigh of relief, anything less than a full season would have lenient, 6 games jeez

Itssoeasy

QI know this is asking a lot because the NFL isn’t losing money but maybe just maybe the league itself will grow a pair and appeal this like they have the power to do.

Jolly Red Giant

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119415053#Comment_119415053

A shocking indictment of the NFL - giving someone with all the hallmarks of a serial predator (at least 66 women) what amounts to a minor slap on the wrist. It is basically saying that if you are an NFL player, you engage in sexually abusive/harassing behaviour, and you get caught - the NFL is not that bothered and will only impose a minor penalty to pretend that it actually cares about this stuff.

Blut2

Its a really logically inconsistent ruling. Either you don't believe the claims, and say its all a witchhunt so Watson doesn't need any punishment. Or you do believe the claims, and he then deserves a substantial punishment.

If they believe the claims how can they justify such a lenient punishment?

eagle eye

It's hard to comprehend such a lenient punishment when Brady got four games for his perceived involvement in deflategate without any real evidence, where Quincy Enunwa got four games for a case of simple assault on his gf, eight games for Mychal Kendricks for insider trading. So insider trading is much worse that 66 sexual assault cases.

ArmaniJeanss

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119421556#Comment_119421556

In the judges defence, there were only 4 cases brought to her attention. The potential existence of 60 other cases would be something she would and indeed should ignore in a dispassionate robotic legal way.

Please don't take that as a defence of Watson, it's not.

Realt Dearg Sec

Not too defend the NFL but this isn't their sentence, it was the judge. The NFL can and probably will appeal.

The judge did say that part of why she went easy is that the nfl have no warning of an intention to clamp down more heavily on these offences. In other words, she is criticizing their long standing tendency to make up punishments as they go along depending on the level of publicity they're dealing with. Why they can't just have a clear code of conduct with sentences laid out is beyond me, but the consequences have been clear for a long time.

Christy42

Dolphins lose a 1st round pick and a 3rd round pick due to asking Flores to tank. They decided that it was either not explicitly enough said or that Ross was "joking" on the 100k offer.

eagle eye

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119421780#Comment_119421780

I wasn't aware of that, thanks for letting me know.

So this is clearly a case where the NFL brought four cases and based on the reaction to the ban they'll then decide how to proceed and use the other sixty two for that.

Innish_Rebel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119423997#Comment_119423997

I thought the punishment was for illegal contact with Tom Brady & Sean Payton while under contract with other teams.

Dolphins:

"The independent investigation cleared our organization on any issues related to tanking and all of Brian Flores other allegations,"

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

I may be stating the obvious here, but I can't help but feel that both the NFL and especially The Browns have made a colossal f up with Watson. Even with "only" 4 cases being adjudicated, the ban is pathetically lenient. The NFL already have an exceptionally poor reputation when it comes to dealing with disciplinary issues and this will only sour it even more.

If I was a Browns fan I'd have serious reservations about wishing Watson well in games and I'd imagine the fans will be very quick to turn on the franchise should he not play to the level he was at in 2019/20. It's funny in that if there was even 1 woman reporting something like this he would probably be looking at a lengthy ban anyway, but the fact there's 24 is mind-boggling. The man should never again be in any position where he is a role-model for anyone, let alone be an NFL quarterback.

Meanwhile, Calvin Ridley is suspended for at least this season for betting on games he wasn't involved in.

As a result, he also forfeits his base salary of about $11 million.

Batter your missus or sexually assault multiple women - "Put your feet up for a couple of weeks."

Have a flutter - "We'll see you for the 2023 season. Maybe."

Itssoeasy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119426182#Comment_119426182

The Calvin Ridley suspension was I felt harsh at the time but also given how much the NFL has embraced sport betting it’s even more stupid. And yeah it’s not like he was doing a Pete Rose on it.

eagle eye

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119426182#Comment_119426182

Yeah and no judge involved in that suspension.

Guffy

"Only" 4 cases being heard would be quite normal in this situation afaik. When there is a class action like this, it would be the normfor a selection of cases being put forward to be heard, when the people involved would generally be saying the same thing. One thing is for sure, the other 20 odd cases are outside the scope of the appeal and as i previously mentioned, the 4 put forward represent all of the allegations. So there would be no further action after the appeal unless it was something different. Unless of course Commish is able to put him on the excempt list.

I imagine the Ridley punishment was so harsh, precisely because the NFL are embracing sports betting.

I can't help but feel that the NFL are opening themselves up to a headache with the NFLPA on this one. The first real independently arbitrated case and they look to have it overturned massively. In saying that, is this one the NFLPA would want to go to war on only to save precedent?

Foxtrol

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119426278#Comment_119426278

They cant really go to war though, as they just signed up to an agreement that is clear that Roger has the final decision.

Most they can do is to try to bring it to court and maybe get it put on hold while they go through the process (they mightnt even get that due to how watertight the language is). That would be a huge gamble for Watson though unless the suspension was indefinite, as if he is banned for saw a year now they could end up pushing it into next year and he'll lose a massive amount more money.

Podge_irl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119426278#Comment_119426278

They are going through the agreed process to appeal the sentence. There is no "headache".

Christy42

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119424652#Comment_119424652

Ah my mistake. Mixing up their current transgressions. Certainly I disagree with their statement that they were exonerated by the report.

Foxtrol

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119431868#Comment_119431868

Yeah the exonerated piece is nonsense. The NFL internal investigation was never going to find the Dolphins guilty of the game fixing one as it would bring the whole league into question and even then they far from exonerated the Dolphins on it.