BMW i4

its been licked for pace in that one, visibly struggling with traction.

I am surprised that the BMW didn’t win this comparison to be honest.

I trust Mat Watson’s reviews and he likes his beemers generally.

the range quoted for that car being so poor stands out too but I hope that’s a result of enthusiastic motoring journalists driving it.

It being a press car having only been driven in winter so far its most likely worst case. Interesting what he says about the acceleration, it being instant, Model 3 gradual. Seems to be the opposite of what other reviews say.

You certainly can’t fault the tech in the Tesla but worth pointing out you get the majority of those features in the i4 aswell, the only optional tech upgrade here in the M50 is the Tech Plus Pack, that costs €2300. The £8k worth of options Matt mentions the majority is not tech related.

Ah found the drag race....to say the BMW took it is true but only by a whisker. That RSymons car is a rental car, I would say its been thrashed its entire life too,

Did they give you an option of keeping the colour but move the date back? You had tanzanite blue, correct?

Sorry, I didn’t read your post correctly. I thought you were saying they had made you change colour in order to make a delivery date. Some discussion on other forums about different colours affecting lead times

IMHO Tanzanite blue is one of the very nicest BMW colours....used to be a exclusive colour on the F8X generation and I lusted after it. Kinda changes colour and can look quite dark indoors and very blue in the sunshine. I think its a good choice, more premium looking than the Poramio blue.

Yep the BMW was beaten on launch in this video but who really cares, another video will have the i4 faster, they're clearly very close. It actually impresses me that the i4 can even be on par with the Model 3 acceleration with an extra 400kg on board (add 400kg to the Model3 and see how well it does) . . what concerns me more is him saying the i4 is noisier at motorway speeds and also his comments about the steering. Most of what else he says is subjective, i.e. looks etc. IMO the Tesla model 3 is one of the worst looking cars on the road, inside and out, but like I said subjective, each to their own. The economy comparison was total nonsense, comparing 19000 miles over a year to 1500 of press driving in winter 🙄 I've seen plenty of videos of Model 3s getting bad range, only real comparison is done using the same scenario. While I like Mat Watson's reviews I find he can like something in one video and dislike it in the next so I'm more inclined to make my own opinions based on what I see rather than hear.

A different review that seems to be little kinder than some of Matts statements, particularly about the noise. Reviewers are hardly getting cars with different tyres affecting noise levels?

interesting that those guys mention the 40 as been slightly more nimble than the 50…due to been 165kg lighter probably,

Maybe he’s getting back handers from Elon! Think I seen something recently where he was planning to have some Tesla as his next car! 😂

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They run a few cars on the carwow fleet including a BMW M3. I wouldn’t think the model s on order will be anything other than another fleet car.

both cars have different strengths it would appear.

I will be more interested in Richard Symons full review when it comes out.

he knows his stuff and is very objective.

Indeed. I rarely even watch carwow with its millions upon millions of subscribers, but I'm rather keen to see Richard Symons' reviews, who up until fairly recently only had a couple thousand...

so here it is. A sensible review /test. The range of the i4 does not seem bad here. I cannot however agree (having owned both back to back) with him on the tesla versus the taycan in the backroad handling section, the teslas steering and suspension make it more difficult to drive quickly on a back road, sure the steering is a quick ratio, but its fidgity on a back road and hard to place. Suspension also lets the tyres off the road more. This is no slight on tesla, BTW its a fine fine car, its just the reality of its design.

Efficiency, range, charging speed. All not terribly important to most people buying above cars in Ireland. I wish the reviewers would concentrate more on driving dynamics and the like. These are medium size premium very fast sports sedans / hatchbacks after all.

Good to see though that Symons did seem to really like the i4 M50. And surely that delay in throttle response can be fixed with an OTA software update

Question for the Taycan owners: have you any control over the gear the car is in at all (1st / 2nd)?

Good point unkle in first paragraph, Certainly I am more interested in the driving character, and would suspect most of the prospective buyer would be also.

Re Taycan gear, no control. In range and normal mode you are always in the efficient second gear unless you are really deep into the throttle. In sport/ sport + you are in first unless you are over 100kph or there about depends on what the car decides. There is a very noticable difference between the geers.

Need more reviews on the i4, Remove before racing, the smoking tyre, throttle house, carfection and the likes, finding it hard get a bead on it with these conflicting reviews.