This whole cancel culture myth

but people try and cancel you

This, I think, is over exaggerated. Absolutely it happens but the amount of times it does is way way less than the amount of times it is suggested it is being done. People claim that they are being cancelled now when all that is happening is someone has said that they disagree with whatever point they made or announced that they didn't like what the first person did/said?

In terms of people bringing up something that was said earlier, no matter how far back, that happens in all walks of life. A common argument against Biden is that he introduced a bill that ultimately was unfair on people within inner city black communities. Trump called for 5 black guys to be put to death for a crime they were later found innocent of. Should neither event be brought up in the conversation about these people because they were in the past.

The reason things are brought up, are twofold. A - It is an opportunity for the person to set the record straight, one way or another as to how they feel about something, B - it does communicate to people in the here and now that society 'generally' does not tolerate such a view anymore. Should we ignore the lessons from the past, rather than learn from them?

In relation to saying something divisive right now and being challenged on it (not necessarily cancelled) Are people not allowed to do that? Should freedom of speech allow the first person to say something but not allow the second person to say they don't like it. If I disagree with something you have said, am I automatically trying to cancel you? Should I have to work with or engage with someone who I dislike or if I decide not to, have I cancelled them through my decision to not tolerate them for views they have chosen to hold and broadcast?

Sounds perfect to me. Caroline stirs tea anticlockwise. #worsethanhitler

So you think he should have been fired and should never work in Hollywood again?

cancel culture doesn't exist because either they weren't really cancelled, or they got what they deserve....

Regarding Graham Linehan, here's a bit from his Wikipedia page about his relationship with both the BBC and Channel 4.

The Indo article is behind a paywall, so I can't view it. However, taking the synopsis here in good faith, you have to ask: who's cancelling who? It seems he's boycotting two major broadcasters because their views don't align with his, not the other way round. His reasoning for not working with the BBC seems particularly petty and somewhat unhinged.

So called “hate speech” constantly expands the excuse for censorship as the definition gets longer by the day. 

Nobody.

The posters who are pro-cancel culture are claiming that cancel culture doesn't exist for some reason. A bold move.

Me too

Ah here, don't open that can of worms!

I'll give you another one.

My sister had just had a baby and was breastfeeding her. She did this in a quiet corner or a private room when she needed to.

I was in the house when a woman who she knew but was not friends with called to the house.

She walked in like she owned the place and said (i sh!t you not) - "Come on get your coat. We are going to go down to the cafe in the middle of the local shopping center and you can breastfeed. Noone is going to prevent you doing what mother nature intended"

My sister said hey whats going on here.

The woman proceeded to tell her that a couple of other parents had told her that my sister was hy about breast feeding in public. And it was societies fault and now she was going to rectify it. My sister held the door open and told her to gtfo of the house. And as she was leaving my sister said its not up to you or anyone else to tell me i need to be comfortable getting my tits out in front of the all the people in the town who I know, including the kids and even the local football team who she is the secretary for. Please allow me to show my tits to who i want to and to not show them to who i dont want to, now fcuk off and save some other gobsh!te.

I actually held the door open for her. We were laughing for hours after it.

But a couple of women have never spoken to my sister after that. All very good mates with yer wan.

And that's part of why "cancel culture" exists. There'll be a few people complaining about something on Twitter, then news sites will run articles about "OUTRAGE on Twitter over XXXXX..." while taking things out of context, leading to further outrage from people who might not have even seen/heard the original content, leading to news sites to run more articles about responses to the "outrage" etc.... and on and on it goes.

A lot of the time, there's very minor levels of criticism and these things would likely very quickly fizzle out. But Twitter and news sites perpetuate the outrage machine for content and too many people are very quickly taken in by it because they then think that they should be outraged over it.

Cancel culture when it comes to fairly minor things is caused by social media, but not always by people on social media, but rather organisations on social media because they can generate content from it.

I am not entirely sure what "after saying in you initially post I quoted saying JK Rowling was definitely cancelled" means, but the only post *of mine* that you have quoted is the one in which I said that the cancellation was only partially successful, so perhaps you're getting confused.

Rowling has been the target of several years of attacks, which like all similar attacks have also been directed at people around her, in order to turn them against her.

In a remarkable reversal, the group of people who *checks notes* dumped porn images into a twitter thread where she was giving away a free book to small children during lockdown one chapter at a time ... are the same group of people calling her an unsavoury character, and quite often getting away with it. Cancel culture is definitely a real thing, and it was definitely directed at her in an attempt to ostracise her, remove her from her creative endeavours, financially hurt her, and get her to obsequiously submit to do whatever they want. Again, part of the point of that is to show others "if we can do this to someone like her, you better stay quiet or you'll get it worse."

As I said upthread some celebrities like Morrissey, Dave Chappelle and JK Rowling are 'too big to cancel'. Many people with less money and influence could and have been driven out of their jobs and out of public life.

This whole thread is framed in a dishonest way. All the posters who support viscious witch-hunts gainst people also lyingly claim that they don't happen.

Charity boss fired after criticising Black Lives Matter

Nick Buckley was sacked from the organisation he founded nine years ago

Was the recent one with the DCU lecturer brought up here, some Islamist type character was attributing flase quotes to the lecturer and trying to get a campaign going to get him fired. The lecturer had to come out swinging with legal to put them back in their box. You can disagree with someone and make bad arguments but dont ne a 'lil bitch trying to get people fired with faux outrage and pass me the vapours