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This whole cancel culture myth

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  • Have you got empirical evidence that racism exists? If not, then I expect you to retract your statement. Holding you to your standard that is.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,446 CMod ✭✭✭✭ ancapailldorcha


    That's the sort of hypocritical response I was expecting. Provide nothing and expect everything. Once you provide your objective proof, I'll provide mine. Go on.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,446 CMod ✭✭✭✭ ancapailldorcha


    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith





  • Can we agree that the "empirical evidence" bar is ridiculous then? We should be able to agree on the basic parameters of discussion hopefully.



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  • Where did I say that? Stop putting words in my mouth. I'm saying there is no scientific evidence that either of them exist as ideas. I'm not equating the two things and saying they are the same.



  • Registered Users Posts: 452 ✭✭ Apothic_Red


    OP back.

    I suppose what I was getting at is the overuse, or improper use, of the term cancelling.

    Someone offers a differing opinion to the hive mind nowadays & you hear that they are cancelled. Then you look into it & their circumstances are completely unaffected. If cancelling is a true weapon it lacks any real sanction in many cases, only gleams noteriety for the perpetrator & ridicule for the easily offended who get hit with the PC/snowflake/woke smeer.



  • Registered Users Posts: 17,784 ✭✭✭✭ dxhound2005


    Hive mind is also a smear. Another version of Sheeple.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,446 CMod ✭✭✭✭ ancapailldorcha


    It would be if you hadn't been disingenuous earlier. You can't lie about me and then expect me to take your word as gospel. Since you have provided nothing, I'm dismissing this myth as the nonsense it patently is.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,234 ✭✭✭ Sonics2k


    You're saying there is no scientific evidence that -racism- exists? Really?



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,446 CMod ✭✭✭✭ ancapailldorcha


    Yep. Beyond pathetic. When all else fails, deploy whataboutery and false equivalences with a sound helping of both sides.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



  • Registered Users Posts: 10,890 ✭✭✭✭ B.A._Baracus


    To me ... the meaning of cancel culture is blurred. There's like three different meanings to it (at least I think)

    First is digging something up from some celebrity/public figure's old social media, old interview etc and trying to use that to get someone black balled.

    Next is celeb/public figure saying something that just divides people - which is too easy to do in this world - and then those who get so offended by it try to use that to get someone black balled (Dave Chapelle comes to mind)

    Last is cause and effect. That's not cancel culture. Like say I was a famous actor and I say something mad like "the nazis were right about the jews" on twitter (or whatever) that's my career gone and people turning against me. That's not cancel culture. That's me being dumb and torpedo'ing my career.





  • You say I "provided nothing" when you asked for "empirical evidence" that cancel culture exists. You basically ask for the impossible and then when I can't oblige you say I've "provided nothing".


    Sorry but you are the one who is being disingenuous and we both know it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,459 ✭✭✭✭ Thelonious Monk


    Yeah but I dont think you'll see him on Netflix or SNL any time soon



  • Registered Users Posts: 37,894 ✭✭✭✭ ohnonotgmail


    what is the difference between the first and second meaning apart from time?



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,790 ✭✭✭ BrianD3


    Anytime I hear of something being dragged up from somebody's past, I think of Liam Gallagher's altercation with a photographer in 2001. Has this had any negative impact on him - no. Seems like some people (good looking bad boys?) are uncancellable. Even if they call someone a gay boy's f*ggot's arse kebab dick w*nker who makes Dale Winton's drawers (underpants?) look bad.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P4JAP5Bf_Wo





  • I was responding to a ridiculous post asking for objective evidence or empirical evidence that cancel culture exists. I was saying that it's not possible to provide a scientific formula for something like this but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.


    I then drew an analogy to racism. There is no scientific objective evidence that racism exists, but I think we can all agree that it does exist, right? Is there something wrong with my logic? Is there scientific evidence that racism exists that I might be missing? If so, can you provide it?





  • I was using your own logic against you. So what you describe there actually describes your own thought process.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,446 CMod ✭✭✭✭ ancapailldorcha


    Nah. It's blatant hypocrisy, let's be honest. Thanks for admitting you have no evidence. Means we can mark this as done.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



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  • So you might prove you are the bigger person and respond to my request for objective proof that racism exists then. I'll wait.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,446 CMod ✭✭✭✭ ancapailldorcha


    Once you provide yours, I'll provide mine. Go on.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith





  • I thought we'd agreed that I am an inferior human being and can't provide evidence of cancel culture. I made the point that it still exists even if you can't scientifically prove it. Similar to racism. You can't prove it exists but most reasonable people (like me) are willing to admit that it exists.


    For that you conclude I have "provided nothing". I agree by your insane standards I've provided nothing.


    Now I ask to hold you to your own standards and prove once and for all your superiority. And you are too scared to take that next step, because you have got nothing. Diddly squat.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,446 CMod ✭✭✭✭ ancapailldorcha


    There's mountains of proof that racism exists. I don't provide links to people who continually tell lies about me and back up none of their own claims when asked. I'll respond when you provide something of value instead of yet more baseless deceit but otherwise, I'm done with this.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith





  • I've tried multiple times to try and meet you halfway and at least agree on some basic things. But each time I extend an olive branch you refuse it and cite something from a previous post as an excuse. The proof is in the thread. Just read back through it if you want "empirical evidence".


    I would say we can agree to disagree, but you won't even agree with that statement probably!



  • Registered Users Posts: 270 ✭✭ Captain Barnacles


    Stop spreading misinformation.

    Trump actually told them to peacefully march to the capital entrance, he specifically asked for non violence.


    funny the way youtube removed that video ...



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,451 ✭✭✭✭ Rothko




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