General Star Trek thread

If Discovery had been more like Star Trek's heyday the Orville probably wouldn't have gained any following but the Orville's current popularity means the demand for it is still there. SNW's marketing is leaning on the return to older style Star Trek so maybe they learned something but I wouldn't bet on it

The Orville was released two weeks before Discovery so it can't be a direct response unless the tone and gist of Discovery were common knowledge in Hollywood for a couple of years.

I think people who are getting excited by SNW because they see it as the coming of some sort of "true Trek" messiah will be disappointed. It will have a lot of the hallmarks of DIS just with episodic stories.

The ones who hate DIS for being "woke" or whatever the FK will be really disappointed

My biggest worry about SNW is that the producers have shown that they have very little knowledge of Trek history which is dangerous in a prequel so we are just gonna get loads of stuff that contradicts the franchise timeline. It was also probably be full of awkward Easter eggs or origin stories for TOS crew.

Generally though I hate prequels of anything. ENT absolutely sucked and the spore, Klingon war and Spock's brother plots on DIS are absolute sht.

I did like PIC though despite it's poor ending so I'm not worried about SNW being a last hope or anything like that

I've loved every second of Lower Decks from day 1 but LD is the DS9 of this run of Trek in the sense that the showrunners and producers are involved in name only and in reality has its own team

I tried watching it again a year ago and at first I thought maybe I was wrong but it got so boring so fast and I gave up.

Trip wasn't bad and T'pol is way way ahead of the pack. The rest of the crew are about as wooden as the Disco team and Archer is just a pain. Also I have always hated that the stuck an extra Enterprise ship in the line before the TOS ship

I loved the NX-01, it was like a prototype Defiant (DS9 edition rather than the sister constitution class ship to the Enterprise) Enterprise the show was a bit hit and miss. It went through a bit of an uncomfortable time around season 2 where female cast members were put in skimpy clothing as often as possible. Something the newer shows have managed to avoid. Strange New Worlds will hopefully show JJ Abrams the right way to update the Enterprise, the bridge looked excellent from what I can remember and the Short Treks pointed in a good direction.

If there's one thing the likes of Orville, Lower Decks and the 90s shows have shown me, doesn't matter if its meant to be comedy, drama or family entertainment, if you write well fleshed out characters for the audience to engage with , you have a good show.

I'm going to buck the trend, I don't like the NX class. It looks fine but it fits too well with Federation Starfleet designs. It's almost like all Federation Starfleet designs are 100% human derived when we can see from Enterprise the other founder races' technologies are superior in some aspects.

You could argue the same point about Starfleet the organisation but being the neutral party between the rest of the semi antagonistic founder races it was probably the only thing they could agree on.

A lot of it is covered in Enterprise. One early example that started the Andorian-Human relations was Shadows of P'Jem where Archer essentially betrayed the Vulcans to the Andorians because it was the right thing to do.

Xindi Crisis played its part as well. When it became clear that the Xindi were a threat to all the solar system adjacent worlds "the enemy of my enemy" sort of took hold.

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