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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,799 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian



    If he was vaccinated he could go to the cinema and Mc D's and would have the same freedoms as the other 92% of the country. When he or his parents decided not to get him vaccinated they knew full well that this could potentially happen. The teenager has a choice, he can get vaccinated and go to the cinema/food outlet or not get vaccinated and not go

    Besides, what's worse, not going to the cinema or catching a deadly disease?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I'll reply to your post on the thread about Donald Trump.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,938 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Maybe the vaccines are so good that a vaccinated person emits a protective cloud that wards anybody within its radius?

    Unless that person is in a pub of course, it doesn't work there because covid loves alcohol so much.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,938 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Whats worse, excluding a teenager from social activities or getting a bug that won't have any effect on him?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,148 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    What about the large highly populated urban areas that are Dem controlled which have low vaccination rates in the African American and other ethic populations? You're hardly suggesting that these Dem controlled areas are being influenced by some crackpot GOP members?

    Not everything is black and white. There is nothing but shades of grey, particularly when it comes to anything in the USofA.

    It was ridiculous to blame one person for the high death rate over there, especially considering States have a hell of a lot of control over what they implement with the federal government not having much of a say really.

    About the best thing either Trump or Biden could have done was pump federal money into development and supply of vaccine which they have both done.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,202 ✭✭✭amandstu


    Carol services this year.


    I hear our local church is going ahead with this this year.


    Is this wise with Omicron around?


    Or am I just pissing in the wind to worry about this and is it just to be assumed now that this will be everywhere no matter what restrictions or precautionary behaviours are taken?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,876 ✭✭✭bokale



    I just meant he could go if vaccinated. So was wondering why he wasn't to see the injustice of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 160 ✭✭noraos


    When the vaccine came out, not one parent I know.. would think that the government would stop their child from going to the cinema, based on the vaccine and to be fair if they did we would have called them conspiracy nut jobs..

    .. the fact that is happening and people think thats ok.. is scary..

    "To live is the rarest thing in the world. Most people exist, that is all."-Oscar Wilde



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    But I don't think even it mutated to a much weaker strain that that'd make any difference. The obsession with case numbers would continue. RTÉ will never stop reporting on them, nor will the newspapers or the radio presenters. I just don't see how it ends. And again I go back to the problem of being a small country. In the US, for example, if a person finds themselves living in an unbearable state they can move to another one. I don't know how easy it easy to move to another state in the US, but I imagine it's pretty straightforward. It's a country made up of many different countries, as Neil Oliver once said. In a small country the best a person can do is go to a small village in the countryside if they want to get away from it all.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    That's terrible. There's really no escape from it. It's everywhere.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,038 ✭✭✭JDxtra


    Funnily, if there was a vaccinated/recovered adult with them the 17 year old was free to enter the cinema. That's Covid logic!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,202 ✭✭✭amandstu


    Listened to CNN yesterday and it seems the States is self segregating into Red population regions or Blue ones.

    People want to live with their like and swing states (or areas) are dying out

    As to your pessimism re the ongoing restrictions the medical experts ste not fools and they may well produce intelligent advice as the situation evolves.


    At some stage we may just get on with life but I feel it is too early now (their advice too)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,876 ✭✭✭bokale


    He was really out of luck so with the high percentage of vaccinated people available haha



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,681 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    Goodnight. Hope that lockdown you've been living in your whole life doesn't have any ill effects.

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,280 ✭✭✭Quags



    While Lockdown certainly meant different to others since 2020 lets not get away from the fact that also lockdown is not being able to live a normal life, we are being treated like we do not know how to live or act. I have seen your replies so its not about 2km or 5km or entry to pubs etc but if people who are not unvaccinated can not live a normal life unless they get a vaccine for a virus that most healthy young people wont die from.

    Mental Torture is also a form of Lockdown for people, MSM are running ads about people not going to the party cause they had sniffles etc thats a major form of lockdown cause people will think they are a danger to society if they go outside and interact with others if they have a runny nose.

    For you this may not feel like a lockdown cause "you can do you want" as long as you keep your vaccine schedule up to date but for others this is a lockdown



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,373 ✭✭✭Mr. Karate


    If you think the service is crap now. Just wait until the students and working age start voting with their feet and leave the Country.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,681 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    How about you decide for yourself whether to go or not? Do you fall into a vulnerable category? Will you be meeting vulnerable people afterwards? Will you be comfortable in a socially distanced indoor setting?

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,280 ✭✭✭Quags


    If your worried then don't go to it. People are going to do what they want so be it "carol singing" or "christmas markets" so this thing is never leaving us so you either try get on with your life or don't its now about personal responsibility



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,202 ✭✭✭amandstu


    Of course we all make our own decisions based on that sort of criteria


    I am still surprised that carol services are going ahead in the present uncertain situation.


    It seems to me that for some people Christmas is almost like a religion :-)



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I'd love to live in a Red state in the US. Problem is it's very hard to get into the US. Even before covid that was the case.


    But I don't see the obsession with cases ending. How do you see the cases thing ending? We know that nphet find a handful of cases concerning. We know that from last summer. So then it seems it has to be 0 cases. Is that possible?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,681 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    I just think that placing the term lockdown on something that patently isn't, doesn't do anyone's mental health any good. It's like a self-fulfilling prophesy. If you think you're locked down, you're invariably going to feel much more negatively about life in general. Here, it's up to yourself. You do you.

    ...but if some of the people who reckon a few restrictions mean a lockdown and decide that, come January, we're in lockdown and post, "Ha! Penfailed, I told you we'd be locked down!" just to gain internet points, they'll get short shrift from me.

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 224 ✭✭PicardWithHair


    Unfortunately lots of people share this view, I don't know why they care if someone else's kids is vaccinated or not, what are they worried about ?

    Their vaccinated kids getting sick ???

    truly bizarre...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 224 ✭✭PicardWithHair




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,409 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    Sure, but unless you're being hypocritical:

    Do you agree with the mask mandates and restrictions that they have been putting in place to save lives now?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,799 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    He's making a choice not to be vaccinated though, so is he really being excluded



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,280 ✭✭✭Quags


    Ah listen this thread is going to cause arguments and disagreements, but people are just pissed off now. The Vaccine brought hope to loads who thought/told it was the way back to 2019 lifestyle but now even the vaccinated have being hit with restrictions which in turn causes those to question why they got it if they are still under a tight regime. IF more restrictions are brought in then serious questions need to be asked about NPHET modelling due to hospital numbers falling, nowhere near the predicted cases and deaths they said would happen.

    I firmly believe if the Gov/NPHET said that we will lock down for the month of Jan and reopening everything fully in Feb with no more lockdowns and we aim for a mainly herd immunity (if possible) then people could think ok we have a plan but we wont and we will be 2 years down the line and we be getting told all sorts again from the Gov about the danger this is causing to a country who really should have top hospital facilities



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,799 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    He has a choice, if he chooses that he wants to go to the cinema he should choose to get jabbed. He's not being punished



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 160 ✭✭noraos



    Lets hope the 17 year old non vaccinated teenager doesnt ask out another vaccinated teenager for a shift down the back of the church!!!! OH HOLY GOD there would be nationwide OUTCRY! he would be outcast from the village and his parents hung in the square in shame hahah - shameful carry on..

    "To live is the rarest thing in the world. Most people exist, that is all."-Oscar Wilde



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,202 ✭✭✭amandstu


    I sure hope that Omicron will be mild enough to be considered as a disease similar to flu that allows us to resume life more or less as before.


    But I defer to medical experts and political consensus(and a moving landscape)

    Off topic:

    Are all taking our eyes off the main game in town which is climate change which will likely put our Covid concerns into the halfpenny place in short order?

    Edit:what attracts you to Red states in the US?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,993 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    Yep and someone riinging ya up to tell you what you missed out on just to rub it in.



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