Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

SaoPaulo41

https://www.newstalk.com/news/varadkar-expecting-nphet-to-recommend-more-covid-restrictions-this-week-1289777

Quags

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118324547#Comment_118324547

The amount of people who have travel booked for the Christmas period are now left waiting for 24/48 hours before they find out if they can travel, they brought in restrictions 2 weeks ago & here we are again with more on the way. As i said a few weeks ago its going to be a lockdown in all but name

dominatinMC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118324445#Comment_118324445

Cmon, who can honestly answer that question? It's like trying to pick the winning lotto numbers. A nice question to pose and stoke debate, but ultimately pointless. You will have some of a more positive disposition who will say early next year, others who are more negative in their outlook will say never - this is the "new normal", we are going to be like this for ever, etc. I don't believe either to be true, maybe sometime in the middle of next year if Omicron proves to be as infectious as it seems to be and burns itself out. But again, this is a very ill informed view. Even expert epidemiologists don't have the answers.

JojoLoca

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118323212#Comment_118323212

I live in Ireland and I agree with what he said

M_Murphy57

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118324689#Comment_118324689

I agree covid is the only thing going on in a lot of peoples lives. A lot of Karen's twitching their curtains dying for someone to put a foot wrong so she can call the gards .

Strongly disagree that the food here isn't good or that English food is better.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118324602#Comment_118324602

But all I'm asking for is evidence that supports the belief that restrictions will be lifted. I say there's no evidence. We know already that a handful of cases causes concern. That happened last summer. We know there was no level 0 in the living with covid plan. We know that restrictions are based on modelling and the modelling will never end. The vaccine passport/certificate was said to be for a few weeks and for indoor dining only, but it's now required for lots of other places.

In other countries and states normal life resuming was tied to vaccination rates. New South Wales, for example, said that when 95% of the eligible had been vaccinated then the restrictions would go.

Ireland is increasingly more and more restricted.

mightyreds

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118324445#Comment_118324445

I dont think they will go too soon it seems hard to fathom but there will be no reason to lift them, for example if everyone in Ireland got covid today or everyone was getting the booster today, in 6/3 months time we'd be back at square one with everyone needing to catch it again or booster.

Expecting it to mutate to a much weaker strain is all we can hope for.

Theres also too much misery around it here, the media hyping it to the last, blame game as if you are a leper if you get it.

It's crazy in this country I'm really starting to think what is going on here.

namloc1980

Media absolutely salivating at the prospect of more restrictions for Christmas. We're definitely suffering from a national hysteria around this.

copeyhagen

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118324339#Comment_118324339

hi honey, everyone that went to the party would like to thank you for NOT attending.

haha this is the world we live in now. taxpayers money well spent for these advertisements.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118324689#Comment_118324689

And my point was more about small countries in general. It's harder to deal with restrictions in small countries because there isn't a whole lot to do in them. If you lived in Thailand or the Philippines, for example, you could go to a tropical island to get away from it all. You could eat lovely street food, go to food markets (I've been to both countries a few times and the food, particularly Thai food, is really nice). If you were in Brazil you could pop down to Copacabana or go out to a street party. In Florida you could go to a beach or walk around in the lovely weather.

I was in Ireland recently and wanted to go for a run. I opened the front door and it was freezing. My point is that bad weather makes doing certain things unappealing. I have often thought that the reason there is such a big problem with obesity in Ireland is because of the weather. People won't, or would be reluctant to, go for a run when it's lashing or if they have put on gloves, a hat, a big jumper, and have to wear trousers instead of shorts, because it's really icy outside.

_Kaiser_

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118324339#Comment_118324339

I just heard a new one that's even worse - this RSVP one from the HSE that has taken each of those letters and given a whole checklist, eg: V(enue) - will people be wearing masks and other idiotic "reminders"

prunudo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118324851#Comment_118324851

Heard it myself, tbh, I thought it was a good play on words but its getting relentless this stage. Taking the fun and spontaneity out of everything. People will not longer associate rsvp with happy times but will be reminded of continuous HSE messaging.

SAMTALK

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118324749#Comment_118324749

I'd love to know where all these Karens are and all the people who have nothing in their lives except Covid.

Gael23

People suffering no more than head cold symptoms need to stop getting tested

M_Murphy57

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118324939#Comment_118324939

On boards.

Penfailed

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118324586#Comment_118324586

What's your definition of lockdown? It would appear that many have their own, non-dictionary definition, so I'm curious, what's lockdown for you?

opinionated3

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118325000#Comment_118325000

Tbh I'm so sick of restrictions, whatever that might entail( mask wearing etc), that I would agree it feels like lockdown everyday. It's pedantic to argue about dictionary definitions of lockdown. I find it amazing how restrictions are now the norm. It's very depressing IMO.

Penfailed

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118325024#Comment_118325024

It's absolutely not pedantic. Words have meanings for a reason. The meaning of lockdown has been completely bastardised in this thread and elsewhere. Sorry you feel like it's lockdown every day...even though you are free to go wherever you want...

astrofool

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118323330#Comment_118323330

But everything you're advocating would lead to more deaths? Biden's vaccine rollout has saved hundreds of thousands of lives with the majority of deaths occurring in GOP strongholds who are too stubborn and stupid to get themselves vaccinated, is that something you blame Biden for? And as said, it paints yourself as the ultimate hypocrite.

Do you agree with the mask mandates and restrictions that they have been putting in place to save lives now?

opinionated3

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118325042#Comment_118325042

You clearly are ok with the way things are. Enjoy. Not everyone thinks like you.

Penfailed

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118325069#Comment_118325069

Clearly, I'm not. I've said so repeatedly. The difference between you and I is my boundless optimism.

M_Murphy57

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118325042#Comment_118325042

I want to be able to go into town for a pint but you can't get in anywhere because of the table service rules.

I want to decide on the day that I'm going out for dinner but everywhere (decent) is booked out weeks in advance (because of social distancing rules and because you can't reliably get into pubs)

I want to book a gig and not worry my ticket will be refunded last minute due to a 50% rule.

I want to be able to travel on my DCC and not worry they will arbitrarily reintroduce tests for travel for vaccinated people.

I want to meet friends and not have them cancel because Tony released a ludicrous "forecast" of 400,000 cases in December to intentionally scare the **** out of people.

Travel, friendship, food and drink are the things that make my life worth living. When I can't RELIABLY make plans to enjoy those things that is my definition of lockdown.

The meaning of words can change. Originally lockdown meant stay at home. For many it has long since evolved to mean "shi*ty half lived life where the threat of restrictions is still constantly looming no matter what the people do"

_Kaiser_

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118325042#Comment_118325042

You are using a very narrow definition for a term that has come to be used (and not just in Ireland) for mass and/or severe restrictions on behaviour

In reality restrictions such as mask wearing, indoor behaviour and numbers, travel restrictions or mandatory prerequisites are all examples of different forms of this.

You may consider these minor limitations or inconveniences, but I dare say most people are sick of whole lot of them at this point.

_Kaiser_

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118325061#Comment_118325061

This "saving lives" mantra is getting tiresome and ever more inaccurate.

The overwhelming majority of people are at least double-vaccinated at this stage. Whose lives are we saving?

The only thing we're saving is those in charge of the HSE who have mismanaged 20 billion euro a year over several decades and provided a "service" that can't even handle a modest increase in demand - remember, it's always on the verge of collapse this time of year, and long before Covid!

opinionated3

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118325110#Comment_118325110

I'd replace the word "boundless" with "blind".

Red Silurian

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118324339#Comment_118324339

They're worse than patronising, imagine testing positive and isolatiing for the required 10 days, missing out on work lunches, matches and other social events. How lonely would somebody who has done the right thing then feel? I think listening to these adds would make them think twice about isolating

Red Silurian

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118324547#Comment_118324547

Varadkar who has been wrong about every decision since September? I wouldn't get worried just yet

Hellrazer

I see Leakys off again.

Was watching the news last night and there was no mention of further restrictions - I think it was Eamon Ryan after the briefing with nphet. Same again on news talk this morning with the agricultural minister and now Leo comes out saying he expects more restrictions tomorrow.

Talk about trying to get rid of the mixed messages!!

Its like a pissing contest with the lot of them, all trying to out do each other

Penfailed

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118325115#Comment_118325115

Yeah. Wrong. You're living a life under shítty restrictions. You're not living in lockdown. I'd hate to be back in a 2k, 5k or countywide lockdown.

Penfailed

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118325117#Comment_118325117

I'm sick of them too...but I'm free to roam.