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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    A new opinion poll on restrictions.



    Elsewhere it is reported the Government is extremely resistant to the idea of any major new restrictions and is placing the focus firmly on the revised vaccination campaign which will be launched imminently by the HSE.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,681 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    ...but what will all the people who predicted lockdowns in January do?!

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 636 ✭✭✭Absolute Zero


    Trump derangement syndrome is still alive and kicking as this thread is evident of it. Trump living in some lads heads here, I thought this about restriction talk.

    Imagine being so sad you live in Ireland and you are obsessed with Donald Trump. 😏 Twitters a hell of a drug.


    Can't wait to see what they bring in Thursday. Like what else could they attack? Closing bars earlier? I will be out Saturday in the pubs enjoying my Christmas holidays for one. Has anyone noticed it may aswell not even be Christmas time, there is literally zero Christmas spirit or cheer here. It seems they've managed their goal of destroying the countries spirit. It's sad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 636 ✭✭✭Absolute Zero




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 725 ✭✭✭M_Murphy57



    40% of people think ireland is "returning to normal" too fast?!


    We haven't had a single day of normality in nearly 2 years!


    We are running events at half mast and we closed nightclubs after just 6 weeks of the compulsory tickets nonsense. We weren't allowed outdoor music festivals in summer and we didn't get the DCC until 2 weeks after everyone else.


    We are only now allowed travel with antigen tests.

    We were never allowed a freedom day and the quasi freedom day we got was snatched away last minute when not all restrictions were lifted!


    Where do they find these headbangers that thinks thats "too much normality, too soon"!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 628 ✭✭✭Ozvaldo


    They don't find them they make them up and put out whatever they want as clickbait.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,681 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    I didn't realise that the goal was to destroy the country's spirit.

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 636 ✭✭✭Absolute Zero


    You don't realize a whole lot then, maybe go outside for once and see for yourself?



  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,458 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Another reminder

    This is a thread about restrictions. Not alcohol consumption. Not Trump (there's a thread in CA on him). Not vaccines (we have threads on that). Restrictions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,130 ✭✭✭dominatinMC


    Looking at it from a positive perspective (trying my best here!), that's the first time I've seen a poll in the Irish media where the majority are actually against restrictions. Depressingly, it was usually the opposite.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 187 ✭✭ShadowTech


    Hope and pray we’re wrong and that MM actually “holds his nerve” as the new sound bite goes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,681 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    Was that the goal all along? Tackling the virus was just a front for destroying the spirit of the country? Why though?

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,288 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    Closing schools two days earlier will achieve nothing but misery for parents and businesses.

    Opening schools two days earlier again will cause problems with parents needing time off work.

    Why would closing 2 days earlier in December and opening 2 days earlier in January achieve anything, unless the virus will be taking 2 days off in January.

    So you want to shut the schools 2 days earlier to knock maybe 2000 cases off the daily numbers, because that's all it will do.

    What exactly is the logical decision for that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,756 ✭✭✭corcaigh07


    Pretty sure you went missing for a few days last time they announced the restrictions you thought wouldn't happen. Don't think you're in a position to make a smart Alec comment like that tbh.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,681 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    Go back and check. I didn't. In fact, I admitted I was wrong. I hope others will have the same courtesy.

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,288 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    In fairness you along with a few posters were adamant restrictions would be lifted up until they decided to not lift them.

    You came on and said you were wrong while the others done a u turn and said it was the right decision.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,681 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    I was certain that they would have been relaxed. I actually think they should've been lifted earlier. I've said so a few times...and yes, I admitted that I was wrong. Thanks for the confirmation. Some people have hazy memories.

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,756 ✭✭✭corcaigh07


    I'll retract, I mixed you in with some others, sorry about that 😅



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,681 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,252 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    I'm a day or two behind, so bear with me for dragging up an older post :)

    Have you heard the recent ads on the radio with someone calling a mate to thank them for staying away from a family/work gathering that everyone had a great time at but was happy they didn't come. Ad ends with the reminder that if you have "symptoms" you should go get tested.

    Essentially, if you have the sniffles, get to the doctor! Ridiculous.. the only ones who should be going to the doctor are those who are actually sick.

    Post edited by _Kaiser_ on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,799 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    I am definitely one of those who thought they would be lifted on the 22nd of October, and in fairness they were for a week before they brought in ticketing for nightclubs

    Hospital cases are down to 470 at 8am today, 23 less than yesterday if I can still do maths in my head. NPHET meet today to make recommendations but from what Tony said to govt yesterday we're unlikely to get any tighter restrictions

    Notable also yesterday that the UK removed all the Southern African countries from their red list



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    Them ads are so patronising.it’s unreal what we’ve been reduced to.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,288 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    If this new variant is as transmissible as they predict but milder then what is the plan.

    Much more people are going to pick it up so what is the plan anyone who picks it up and close contacts need to isolate for 10 days.

    Schools would be empty and businesses would go under.

    I think at some point we need to live with this and forget isolating, if you are vulnerable or badly sick then stay at home.

    If not go to school and get an education and go to work and earn a living.

    People have vaccines and boosters to protect them from serious illness.

    Scrap daily testing and introduce restrictions based on times where hospitals are under sever pressure.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,681 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    Essentially, if you have symptoms, go and get tested. Don't go to the doctor. They'll just send you to get tested.

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,681 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    In fairness, they didn't remove all the restrictions except facemasks on the 22nd of October like they said they would. Remember, EVERYTHING (except facemasks) was meant to go including the certs.

    The UK have removed those countries from the red list because Omicron is already spreading in the community and stopping people flying in won't make any difference.

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I asked the following question on another thread, where there's very little discussion, so I think it's worth asking here too:


    When do people who maintain that the measures/restrictions will be lifted in Ireland believe they will be? Vaccine passports/certificates, masks, social distancing, mass testing etc. Normal life. That is life without restrictions. I'm not asking for a date, just the circumstances that would allow normal life to resume. And then evidence that backs up the certainty that they will be lifted.


    It's useful to make comparisons with other countries. Countries and states with higher vaccination rates than Ireland still restrict their citizens, The latest is Sao Paolo in Brazil where 100% of adults have been vaccinated: São Paulo says it has fully vaccinated 100 percent of its adults. Will it be enough to stop omicron? - The Washington Post


    And still masks are required everywhere there, vaccine passes are required etc. Gibraltar with a high vaccination rate and loads of restrictions, Portugal, Spain.


    So what are the criteria?


    Low numbers of cases doesn't mean no restrictions in Ireland. We saw that last year during the summer when there were few cases and a tiny number of deaths. So a low number of cases doesn't get rid of them. Is it that the heath system isn't overwhelmed? It's always overwhelmed. Is it when nphet says it's ok? When have they ever said anything about normal life resuming? In the living with covid plan from last year (or this year?) there was actually no level 0. Level 1 was still very restricted. Is it when WHO says it's all over? Is that likely to happen? Covid isn't going away.


    And not a single country that introduced the vaccine passport has got rid of it. That's worth bearing in mind. New South Wales has vaccinated 95% of the adult population and they're still required almost everywhere there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,938 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    You were certain then, just as you were certain pubs opening would not be delayed in June/July, just as you were certain about a lot of things previous to that.

    And now you are certain again about what will happen with restrictions next year.

    If I was wrong as often as that I wouldn't be so certain.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,252 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Not if it's not any more dangerous (and signs are that it's actually less so) - and remembering of course that "regular" Covid isn't dangerous to the vast majority of the population anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,681 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    Ah, you're back to putting words in my mouth again. Where did I say I'm, "certain again about what will happen with restrictions next year"?

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,681 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival



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