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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭atilladehun


    I'm in no position to give you advice but you reminded me of that scene.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,244 ✭✭✭Brid Hegarty


    The photo's a bit too bright but Chris Hemsworth has got to be the king for flat stomachs. Now I don't think he'd look any worse from different angles!




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,414 ✭✭✭Cill94



    Again: angles, flexing.

    Actors and models are paid to know how to do this. It's not what they look like 24/7.




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,244 ✭✭✭Brid Hegarty


    Could I ask another question while I have you? I'd like to know what your opinion about cold immersion therapy is? A scientific explanation about what goes on in the body during cold immersion can sound quite convincing to a lay person... when you hear all this talk about cold shock proteins, inflammation, longevity and whatever else! But as with the hype around fasting, is it really all that good? Or do people just get a placebo effect.

    I was listening to the 'healthy or hoax' podcast and I heard Professor Jim Cotter from the University of Otago suggest cryotherapy is over-hyped. It reduces inflammation and pain but he says animal data shows that it could impair the health of that tissue in the long run.

    Assuming cold immersion therapy is good, then water/ice would likely be better than cryo as it's much more cardiovascular. With water although the temperature isn't as cold, the underlying tissue is cooled faster. Cold water is harder on the heart than cryo, as it has to push against the increased blood pressure caused by the cold. The heart should be getting more oxygen when it beats faster, but in this case (according to him) it actually gets less.

    I go to the sea at least once a week at the moment which I enjoy. I suppose it's possibly beneficial if you keep it up regularly, but if you were to do it out of the blue in mid winter it could quite taxing on the body.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,151 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    I'm not Cilian, but I've been doing various forms of cold water therapy for years. Daily cold showers most commonly.

    "The literature" is reasonably clear that cold water immersion is detrimental for muscular hypertrophy if you do it after lifting to at least some extent. I also think there's at least some basis for believing it can have an anti inflammatory effect, indeed the two things would go hand in hand.

    The extent to which it does that, probably negligible enough that it doesn't matter for most people, and I think that's true of most of the claimed benefits.

    So why do it?

    Because it does make you feel invigorated, when you towel off after 3-5 minutes of it.

    Yes, it can be unpleasant and it's normal that when people start they don't enjoy it and they lose control of their breathing and generally it's a form of masochism.

    I'm not really into doing it in order to build mental toughness, but I know some people feel that way about it. My observation has been that with time you actually just don't find it that unpleasant anymore, to the point that I wondered was my shower running warmer than it used to (It isn't).

    Wim Hof - who admittedly is hit and miss - has a theory that your skin is a giant organ that has become over sensitised because we are so well wrapped up and protected against the elements. It tingles and feels weird, basically, and he feels that a benefit of cold water therapy is that you progressively desensisitise your skin so that you are not as easily made to feel unpleasant (Basically). I guess my experience would be that he's possibly onto something there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭Patsy167


    A question on Minimum required volume - I'm currently doing the following 3x per week and wondering whether this is enough volume to make strength increases (All at an RPE of 7-8). I've never enjoyed any training with a lot of volume so trying to get strength increases with the minimum effective amount -

    Pull-ups (5x5)

    Lat Pull down (5x5)

    Seated Row (5x5)

    Walking Lunges (5x5)

    Hamstring Curl (3x5)

    Seated leg curl (3x5)



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,151 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    That's quite low intensity and low training frequency. The volume is moderate at best considering the RPE mentioned.

    RPE 8 can mean different things to different people. I'm taking it that you would mean you would have a few more reps in the tank at RPE 7 or 8 i.e you're nowhere near failure on your work sets.

    Some of the machines you are using would probably lend themselves to using a slightly higher rep range and progressing by weight and rep PRs week on week. You don't typically see sets of 5 seated leg curls.

    There's a strong tradition of low volume machine-based training that's still around, albeit typically with hypertrophy in mind versus strength, but it is renowned for high intensity work sets... Basically, you'd be a lot closer to failure (or at failure) if you're doing such low volume, on the basis that you really need to push yourself hard in order that you're getting in several effective reps at the end of your work sets which will give the body a reason to adapt. Even then, a lot programs using this approach have higher volume on a given day overall. There might be just 1-2 hard work sets on the high bar squat, for example, but then the quads would be smashed again on lunges, leg extension and so on. Again, more of a hypertrophy protocol than a strength approach it must be said.

    Considering your exercise selection I'm taking it you're in a commercial gym... Why no use of quad dominant machines - leg extension, hack squat? You've got also two vertical pulls and a horizontal pull ... But no pressing at all? Just curious, maybe it's injury related.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,414 ✭✭✭Cill94



    My opinion about coldwater immersion is that it's something you can do if you enjoy it. Most of the claims I've heard about what it can do aren't scientifically supported. And we do have some science to show that it can have a detrimental effect on muscle adaptations. Depends on how much of it you're doing though. Until it's been sufficiently studied, placebo effect is never something you can rule out when it comes to any health intervention. What you believe often matters more than whether the thing really works.

    People don't want to hear this, but if you're looking to boost longetivity, it mostly comes down to exercising regularly, having good nutrition and sleep, and socialising. Social class is also extremely indicative of lifespan, but harder to control.

    Everything outside of that, whether it's fasting or coldwater therapy, is often just a distraction created to sell you a product.



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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,573 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    That looks like a recipe to burn out and stop making any gains, I don't understand why you are doing such low reps on isolation lifts. Do low reps because you don't enjoy higher reps is a bad idea IMO. You need a properly structured program instead of a random selection of lifts.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,414 ✭✭✭Cill94


    No pushing exercises, why?

    Yet there are 3 pulling exercises and 2 hamstring exercises.

    Walking lunges aren't well suited to going that heavy as it's not a very stable exercise. Seems like everything in there is heavy.

    I think you'd get much better progress out of following an established programme. It would have more balance and a built in method of progression. Reddit's fitness forum has a section on this and there's a thread on here called 'beginner strength programmes'.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭Patsy167


    That's helpful. My main aim was to pick exercises that I would enjoy so I cobbled together the above exercises purely based on enjoyment. I don't enjoy any Push exercises and only like doing single leg exercises. I know that this approach is not sustainable in the long run but my thinking is that it will allow me to build up some strength and a momentum in the gym over a few months. Once I've an acceptable level of strength built up i'll look at a more balanced programme focused on strength.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,414 ✭✭✭Cill94




  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,151 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    Patsy,

    I get where you're coming from.

    Any chest press or shoulder press machines in the gym? Since you seem to like machines they would be an easy option for some pushing work.

    If not that then can’t really beat DB bench, DB seated shoulder press, push ups.

    For quads if they had a leg extension and / or hack squat it would be a no brainer to complement all the hamstring work.

    The other thing you could consider that would probably be of general benefit to you is going to something like 3x10 for everything except the pull ups.

    If you do all of that it’s a lot in one session, you have the makings of two alternating workouts there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,655 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    "Once I've an acceptable level of strength built up i'll look at a more balanced programme focused on strength."


    This seems like a strange logic, to be honest. You'll do a set of exercises you cobbled together to get stronger and then you'll move to a balanced programme to get stronger?


    Why not just do a balanced programme to get stronger now?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭Patsy167


    Appreciate the feedback. The logic I've been using is that my gym attendance has been flakey at best recently as I wasn't really enjoying it. To get some momentum going I was going to focus on just doing whatever I enjoy and hoping it will snowball from there.

    I took the feedback from here on-board and tried to adjust so this mornings workout was:

    • Trap Bar Deadlift - 5x3
    • Hamstring Curl - 5x3
    • Seated Leg Curl - 3x5
    • V-Bar Pulldown - 3x5
    • Seated Row - 3x5
    • Chest Dips - 5x3

    My plan is to count that as a full body workout and do it 3 times per week. I'm sure more volume is needed so I'll focus on sorting this in the coming weeks.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,510 ✭✭✭VW 1


    Looking for an opinion on what to do...

    Had a decent strength building programme for the compound lifts, working from higher volume down to close to max doubles over a 12 week period.

    Did a deload week to prepare for one rep max testing. Woke up a day or two after my last deload session with a lot of lower back pain, but muscular. So stretched lower body, back and hips for two weeks to the point the back is feeling good.

    Is it a good idea to jump back back in this evening and continue as planned on the one rep max tests for the week?

    Or is it a better idea to ease back in and use estimated numbers to plan my next training cycle?

    I feel the correct answer is the latter, but I was more than likely going to see an all time PR on squat, and probably come close with DL.

    TIA!



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,151 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    That's a great question.

    I've done 12 week programming followed by a deload week and then 1RM testing on a number of occasions, and you seem to have been particularly unlucky here.

    I would not now go ahead with 1RM tests for two reasons:-

    1) You ended up taking what is effectively a 3 week deload, if I read your post right, because of the back. Unfortunately that's long enough some detraining will have occurred and there's a risk that you won't hit your target 1RMs now.

    2) If your back feels totally normal then re-injury might not be a large risk, but you may not want to chance it.

    I think if you are confident in your estimations, going with estimated 1RMs is the smart move. You could keep it conservative - 2.5kg to 5kg per lift. You should actually know whether you were going to get your target 1RMs based on how the doubles felt and what the bar speed was like. If you felt like the doubles could have been trebles or even quadruples, and/or the bar speed was reasonably fast, you know your 1RM has moved.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,510 ✭✭✭VW 1


    That's the sensible approach I guess, and it's the advice I would give to someone else.

    Impatience to test might lead to injury again, which I definitely don't want off the back of a really good training cycle.

    Onwards and upwards!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,414 ✭✭✭Cill94


    The work and adaptations you built up won't have just vanished because you took a few weeks off. I would start back at heaviest you can comfortably, and then over weeks build back to a position where you could hit a new 1RM.

    Also this is just an aside, but it's my personal belief that taking a deload before testing a 1RM is not a good idea for a significant amount of people. It doesn't work well for me and many people I've coached. It also just doesn't make sense to go light and detrain your body right before you need it to be at its strongest. Some people can taper down and get a peaking effect, but it's easy to **** up and is probably only necessary for more advanced lifters.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 664 ✭✭✭Mr321


    What's the best way to break yourself in at running after an absence from knee injury?

    Injury fully heeled and strengthened.


    Thanks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,414 ✭✭✭Cill94


    Something as simple as slow, short runs, even with some walking rests if needed. Slowly increase pace and distance. 👍️



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 664 ✭✭✭Mr321




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,244 ✭✭✭Brid Hegarty


    I just said I'd ask about the fact that I didn't sweat during one or two jogs I did recently. I pushed as hard as I usually do, but still barely sweated anything. It doesn't feel good when this happens during a jog. It feels a lot better when I sweat. The weather has been cold so maybe that has something to do with it. I normally don't sweat during the first mile anyway. But after 2 miles with no sweat, that shouldn't be the case. I think maybe I could have eaten a bit more before these jogs if that might have anything to do with it.

    Also, breathing in the cold air when you're breathless is also a horrible feeling.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,573 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Simple answer is that it’s cold. You swear to cool down, if you’re already cold then there is no need.


    I wouldn't use sweat as a quality gauge.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,244 ✭✭✭Brid Hegarty


    Speaking of flat stomachs, Michelle Keegan has a lovely one.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,231 ✭✭✭carrollsno1


    Just a quick one folks, started back running recently any tips on how to avoid ire or chub rub as some people call it? TIA

    Better living everyone



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,510 ✭✭✭VW 1


    Under armour shorts or similar. As a big legged man, I suffer the same and can't run without them. If you don't have and want to run, vaseline will help but isn't as effective.


    Edit, I actually picked up a few pairs the other week in decathlon for 5 euro a pair



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,060 ✭✭✭chases0102


    Hi all,

    Just wondering if anyone has any advice here.

    From doing Squats, I feel my Range of Motion (particularly I think in my IT band??) has deteriorated. Love doing the exercise, and the benefits are obvious - but just wondering can anyone recommend particular stretches, when to do them, etc. if this is indeed a thing.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,994 ✭✭✭c.p.w.g.w


    I had a similar problems many years ago...found that crosshack squats and frog rocks, both primarily work the groin inner quads but I my mobility from the hip vastly improved and I stopped having issues with the ITB



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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,573 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    What warm up are you doing? Outside of your warmup what mobility work are you doing?


    The whole western world's IT bands are in a jock right now I'd say from sitting too much during the pandemic. So be patient with yourself.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,060 ✭✭✭chases0102


    Being honest, too little warm up mobility I think - few basic stretches. What stretches/warm up routine would be good to avoid such poor Range of Motion and overall mobility with these muscles?



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,151 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    I don't really have any great insight into mobility and its relationship to training, but I noticed you linked your problem to squatting.

    If you're squatting below parallel and with decent form then really squats should be contributing to good mobility in the hips, knees and ankles, not negatively impacting.

    In your warm-ups if you spend some time at the bottom of a body weight squat and move around a little, that might be beneficial. Then with the bar and your warm-up weights you could consider seeing how you get on with some pauses at the bottom. Make sure you are breaking parallel with your work sets, and nothing to say they couldn't be paused at the bottom as well.

    There's a whole world of dedicated "mobility work" out there involving various exercises, tools and beliefs about what is required in this area but to be honest... Only bother if you enjoy it, I have never found it that worthwhile in the long term ... and I've drank the kool aid of a great many approaches over the years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,645 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    Agree with lots of above. I had knee problems from squatting years ago and a physio prescribed a good bit of IT band work. He also questioned my squat form after looking at a bodyweight squat in the clinic. I thought "nah, my squat is fine. I'll foam roll my IT band". All the foam rolling and mobility did little for me knee but low and behold, fixing my squat did wonders.


    I'd just check a few things with your squat, namely how the weight is distributed across your foot. Squat slowly and if at any point during it, you notice that your weight is falling onto your front foot foot or inside foot, then you could have the cause.


    Hell, even if it is your IT band, trying to do a third world squat every day for as long as you can manage should help somewhat.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,676 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    I had seen that directly trying to lenghten the IT band is a waste of time as its not very flexible in and of itself and its better to focus on developing the muscles directly rather than doing foam rolling. Pick a glute , hamstring and hip flexor exercise for example and add them in, and as above, i try to start most session in the gym with an Asian squat, if you cant sit unassisted in an Asian squat for a minute or two comfortably its one for the list.

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,573 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    a simple thing is to squat every day. Sit back into a body weight squat and hold it for time. Aim to get up to 2 mins.


    I like to arm up for squats with foam rolling my IT Bands and doing some glute activation

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,603 ✭✭✭✭Mellor





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,603 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Yup. IT band is fibrous tissue, sort of like a long tendon, only even less give. (tendons don’t have much give to begin with). You simply aren’t going to make it longer.

    But the muscles connected to it can be loosened. Targeting the TFL helped me previously.

    Not sure what you mean by inner quads. But quads don’t really affect the hip.

    I like Cossacks as a hip stretch. But on the straight leg. For the squatting, I think thE body weight squat hold above is ideal. But aiming for more than 2 mins.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,563 ✭✭✭The White Feather


    A couple of years ago, I was getting a pain on the side of my knee and no matter what I did the pain kept coming back even after rest. It was my IT band and I started stretching it. Did this for a few days and the pain disappeared. I still do the stretches now before or after working out so it doesn't come back.

    What I did was find a surface around waist high. Too low and its not enough but too high and you won't hit the right spot. I used the kitchen table! Then put the leg that has the pain on it but turn your foot so that the outside of your knee is on the surface and your baby toe is closest to the surface. So like a hamstring stretch except you are turning your leg. Leave a bend in your knee though. Now bring your upper body down and hold. You are aiming to go down over the outside to target the band on the outside. So you are over your knee to the side.You will feel the outside stretch when you do it right. The usual thing for stretches, a few secs as first then gradually go longer. This is what got rid of my pain.

    If that's too awkward, try it on your couch or bed. Sit on the edge and put leg up on the couch or bed as above. Leave other on floor and stretch over the knee to the outside.

    Nowadays I do the same stretch on the ground if I am at a gym or outside and no high surface. Both knees will be at 90 degrees. Think as if you are going down on one knee and you rear knee was in line with your front heel , and then you dropped to one side. So if i was stretching my left IT band, Left leg is bent at 90 degrees with outside of knee on ground and left baby toe closest to ground, right leg is bent at 90 degrees also so that inside of my knee and my right big toe are closer to the ground. Now i would stretch down to my left over the knee again.

    Now i have progressed to turning my knees over to the right so i am doing the same on the other side, stretching and going back and forth, then not using my hands for base so it is a great mobility drill while stretching. Hope this helps. Its hard to describe stretches but hope I have made it clear.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,414 ✭✭✭Cill94


    I’m not sure if you’re saying that you feel like squats have made your IT band tighter or that your IT band is tight and it’s limiting your ability to squat?

    In either case, your IT band is meant to be tight and can’t have its length changed to any meaningful degree.

    If you’re struggling with squat flexibility - simply practice it more. Holding on to some kind of pillar can help you stretch out in that bottom position.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,060 ✭✭✭chases0102


    Great, thanks for that advice.

    I guess the feeling I'm having is of a tightness, restricted movements, not even sure if the IT Band is the correct source to be honest! I feel like I am not doing enough preparation in the form of stretches, or mobility warm ups, etc.

    As an example, trying to sit cross legged on the floor with my kids, or whenever I am in a kayak, I find very uncomfortable



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,414 ✭✭✭Cill94


    I getcha. You’re probably just generally tight from inactivity. Lots of resources on YouTube for lower body flexibility/mobility that could help. Practicing the movements you want to be flexible in will be most efficient.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,676 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    Progressing upper body pull? was simple enough since last June was doing 10X3 Pull down , supported row and single arm Dumbbell raise, the 10 x 3s morphed into 5X6 as my progression was adding weight. I might have one more dumbbell increase in me in a couple of months. After the summer I do want to focus on pull/chin ups and possibly doing a few rungs on the monkey bars but in the meantime what sort of progression is worth looking at ? Im generally just interested in strength and to the extent it balances the push activity.

    In terms of priority Im more lower body oriented and in terms of upper body I do the bones of 90 reps in an upper body push session, my main goal there is to up my OHP 10kg in however long that will take , the easy increases are behind me.

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,445 ✭✭✭Sunny Dayz


    Storage of home equipment

    Over the last 2 years thanks to Covid lockdowns etc I've accumulated a few small bits - few sets of dumbells, few kettlebells, a set of weights and bar (also known as a pump set according to google) and a mat. At the moment they are thrown higgledy-piggledy under the stairs and taken out when I want to do a workout (usually 3 mornings a week). I don't really want to leave them out when not in use, prefer to have them put away after. Any ideas for storage, preferably under stairs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,414 ✭✭✭Cill94



    If you've been pushing hard at it for a while it might be wise to reduce your weights by 10-20% so your body can recuperate and be ready to start pushing again.

    I also find that building a bigger base of volume work almost always helps break a plateau. Try getting weights you used to do for 3x10 up to 5x10 etc. If you find you can't do that then you're likely not eating/sleeping enough.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,676 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    cheers, are you saying you would have a preference for working with a weight you can do 10 reps of over 5?

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,414 ✭✭✭Cill94


    Typically yeah. For volume work I just try to get 30-60 total reps. That could be 3x10, 4x15, 6x5 etc. Progressing the weight you can handle in that range will increase what you can do for 5s.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,676 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,812 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Sit up / foot anchor..

    all, I probably have the wrong technique but I’ve been having to get anchoring my feet under my bike during sit ups.. not ideal as feet get sore fast so is there any devices that are designed to help ? I can just find this…and was looking to see if anyone is using one or an alternative…?





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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,151 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    An option is just to move away from conventional sit-ups / something that you feel requires anchoring of the feet, and look at a broader range of movements like Russian twists, side bends, leg raises and the McGill sit-up etc.



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