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    #8222
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users Posts: 20,545 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118269909#Comment_118269909

    True Geordie Xtra



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    #8223
    reclose
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    Just watched that AJ interview. It’s like he’s concussed.



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    #8224
    Littlehorny
    Registered Users Posts: 2,351 ✭✭✭Littlehorny


    Also on Youtube there is a video segment of a full interview that John Fury done recently, if you search "John Fury's brutal honesty on Anthony Joshua, is AJ finished?"

    I think he makes a few god points but doubt Joshua and his team would listen to anyone tbh.



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    #8225
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users Posts: 20,545 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118274434#Comment_118274434

    Its mad isn't it , was he drunk or high ?

    He literally would say something & contradict it in the next sentence,

    Strange how Eddie & Warren are also talking on camera about Fury & Usyk

    AJ may have very well just gone off the rails a bit mentally & his team don't think he will be in ready in time, So they have decided to play it safe & smart and dodge the fight,



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    #8226
    AdrianG08
    Registered Users Posts: 905 ✭✭✭AdrianG08


    That true Geordie Xtra video is hilarious in his breakdown of AJs latest video. Pulls it apart.

    Joshua surely cannot be seriously considering stepping aside? Clearly hoping Fury wins and wants to jump in against him for the big payday.

    That latest interview with IFL is some of the best unintentional comedy you would ever see, how his "team" allow him near a microphone is just beyond me.



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    #8227
    squinn2912
    Registered Users Posts: 4,692 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    Mo God who the hell is letting Joshua speak without a script it’s like a comedy sketch. Has his media team that guided him so well for a decade all been sacked instead of Rob? That is horrendous. Contrast that with the interview Fury did on IFL all off the cuff, funny and bullsh1t not blatently obvious. That dung about praying if the plane is going down. He’s made a cod of himself. I really hope he fights Fury just so that Fury can brutalise him about that nonsense in the build up. Bizarre. Actually becoming worrying.



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    #8228
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118278942#Comment_118278942

    I just watched that video now. I’d never heard of him before. He’s bang on the money in my opinion.



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    #8229
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users Posts: 20,545 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    So the WBC has ordered Fury to fight Whyte next

    I wonder what Heran think means AJ will have to figh Uysk he cant make uo the step aside money excuse

    Throws a spanner in the works for AJ and Hearn

    Very intriguing how it turns out



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    #8230
    squinn2912
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118286779#Comment_118286779

    What’s your prediction? The two fights are bound to go ahead Joshua vs Usyk and Fury vs Whyte



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    #8231
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users Posts: 20,545 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118286973#Comment_118286973

    Im convinced somethings going on with AJ ill be surprised to see him fight by March /April he looks all over the shop and how all of a sudden stepping aside is a option somethings going on there,

    Fury will beat Whyte in 8 or 9

    Honestly i cant aee both fights happing that easy,

    If Fury v Usyk can happen i think the WBC will allow Fury to take the fight



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    #8232
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users Posts: 20,545 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Intresting to see Joseph Parker and his ex coach Kevin Barry have recently said Whyte wouldnt stand a chance in there with Fury, SId the levele where much different, Basically even implying he(Parker) wasnt on Furys leve



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    #8233
    squinn2912
    Registered Users Posts: 4,692 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118287045#Comment_118287045

    Had a look at that interview I didn’t think he said a lot about the Whyte Fury fight. Maybe there’s more? Barry wasn’t on the one I saw. I don’t think anyone has a chance against a properly prepared and motivated Fury but he can be lax, can be put down by glancing shots so could be taken out if hit clean. Whyte is a big enough lump to deliver that hit. It’s an exciting fight, particularly if that fight were made before the undisputed one.



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    #8234
    AdrianG08
    Registered Users Posts: 905 ✭✭✭AdrianG08


    You would have to imagine AJ is looking for a sellable or palatable way to avoid fighting Usyk again.

    He will want to cash out against Fury and still make a massive purse. The inevitable loss against Usyk would leave that in tatters.

    I was looking forward to the mental gymnastics AJ would put forward to explain the logic of avoiding it, but looks like it's already started.



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    #8235
    squinn2912
    Registered Users Posts: 4,692 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    He’s talking himself up as the best business man. If his step aside money plus a crack at Fury or Usyk whomever emerges victorious and his money for that outweighs his purse for the rematch then it does make business sense, but only if he doesn’t fancy himself to beat Usyk.



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    #8236
    AdrianG08
    Registered Users Posts: 905 ✭✭✭AdrianG08


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118287832#Comment_118287832

    He talks about it not being about money, it's about respect.

    You have to avenge your losses if you want respect, simple



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    #8237
    eagle eye
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118287832#Comment_118287832

    Well another loss destroys the AJ Vs Fury massive payday for both. If he steps aside and Fury takes out Usyk then they've salvaged the big money fight. If AJ goes in again and loses to Usyk then the big money is gone.



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    #8238
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users Posts: 20,545 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Something is up with AJ , he clearly thought twice about a rematch straight away & now he might have no choice, Terrible mindset going into a fight like that ,

    He still hasn't found a new coach and if he is fighting April he needs to get things in place very quickly ,

    Would the WBC let Fury skip Whyte if the undisputed fight is possible ?

    Is Whyte still under Hearn ? Hearn will want to do what's best for AJ not Whyte cause obviously AJ brings him more cash, , so he could be stuck here ,



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    #8239
    AdrianG08
    Registered Users Posts: 905 ✭✭✭AdrianG08


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118288314#Comment_118288314

    Yes but surely AJ cannot demand top billing and £££ that he always gets, if he gets the Fury fight having stepped aside to allow him to face Usyk? It just looks so bad.

    Good businessman? He just looks like he knows he cannot beat Usyk.



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    #8240
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    Let's separate the wheat from the chaff and get Fury and Usyk in the ring.

    Fury would dance around Whyte and Joshua doesn't have the skill nor mental fortitude to beat Usyk.



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    #8241
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users Posts: 20,545 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118289159#Comment_118289159

    Yes but AJ has the leverage of having the re-match contract ,

    The undisputed fight does not happen next without his say ,

    AJ will says to Fury & Usyk ok I'll step aside but i get 50/50 spilt to fight the winner,

    If the two lads really want the undisputed fight next they take it ,if not AJ fights Usyk

    Remember AJ still brings massive money to table & taking 50/50 against him will make you more money than fights anyone else ,

    On the other hand if AJ fights Usyk again & loses he has no leverage and is now the B side



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    #8242
    Mantis Toboggan
    Registered Users Posts: 17,681 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    I'd fancy Joshua to take Usyk next time.

    Free Palestine 🇵🇸



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    #8243
    walshb
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118291717#Comment_118291717

    He has to KO him....

    I would be confident we'll get a more aggressive and better and better prepared Usyk, now that he knows what it's like to fight a big AJ

    Usyk could get the KO



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    #8244
    squinn2912
    Registered Users Posts: 4,692 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118291743#Comment_118291743

    Joshua won’t win a fair points decision so he will have to really go for the KO. In doing so he opens up the risk of Usyk tagging him even easier and if his tendency to panic when hit clean continues then every chance he will be stopped himself, possibly on his feet. Of all the times he’s been knocked down he’s been shocked with a hit and then gradually tumbled to the canvass, losing his senses. I could see him stopped on his feet with the referee stepping in. That would look awful. I think the worst possible scenario for him, however, is repeat where he gets gradually broken down without really going for it.



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    #8245
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users Posts: 20,545 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    A lad i quite known well is currently on Furys home coming tour with him

    Absolutely sureal to see his social media & him hanging around with Tyson & John for the last 2 weeks, some experience id imagine to be with the Heavy Weight champion of the world day in day out,



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    #8246
    squinn2912
    Registered Users Posts: 4,692 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118293113#Comment_118293113

    For sure! It seemS like Fury is just always “on” too so there’d never be a dull moment. Id love a couple of hours just kicking back with John. He’d have some stories away from the cameras.



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    #8247
    reclose
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    John gouged someone’s eyeball out. I don’t know the details but sounds like a fairly scumbag thing to do.

    I wouldn’t have any time for someone like that.



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    #8248
    squinn2912
    Registered Users Posts: 4,692 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118293426#Comment_118293426

    I thought the fella lost an ear? Hard to know the whole context of it but yea it’s definitely not good.



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    #8249
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 54,686 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Scumbags in sport are generally adored. Look at Mike Tyson.

    A convicted rapist..adored by many. Bit lumps out of a man’s ear when things weren’t going his way.

    Before anyone jumps in: for me a great fighter. But a scummy person



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    #8250
    Mantis Toboggan
    Registered Users Posts: 17,681 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118293113#Comment_118293113

    Is it the impressionist Al Foran? Thought the impressions were class.

    Free Palestine 🇵🇸



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    #8251
    yourdeadwright
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118294215#Comment_118294215

    It is actually i know him through his family ,His a really nice guy



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