Gigs '21 - Stendhal Festival (July), Stendhal Festival (August), [s]Liam Gallagher & Idles[/s], King Kong Company, Pigs Pigs Pigs Pigs Pigs Pigs Pigs, The Undertones, And So I Watch You From Afar
Gigs '22 - And So I Watch You From Afar, Teenage Fanclub, Mogwai, Stendhal Festival, Clutch, Kurt Vile & The Violators, The Cure
Consequences that should match the magnitude of their choice
Which for a healthy twenty year old is zilch
I thought pubs and restaurants had their limits on capacity lifted with the cert!?
Is this a reintroduction of reduced capacity restrictions?
Put your faith in Jesus Christ because this world is becoming a write-off, how bad will it be by end of decade.
Vintners happy anyway
are we nearly at everyone being happy?
This place is only happy when at full rant
Haven't you heard, it's going to be a wonderful dystopia 😄
"People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both."
- Benjamin Franklin
All this talk of ordering from the bar reminds me of the odeon in Harcourt. With people 3 deep at the 50 ft long bar, your mates would have to send a rescue party for you after about 15 mins to get the round of pints back in one piece.
Too old for that **** now, but it would be nice to get back to that "normality."
For the kids.
Not until all restrictions, coercive and discriminatory measures are dropped.
"Happy" with temporary give&takes and nonsensical measures from overreaching government is slave mentality. The government serve us, not the other way around.
Everybody should now be firmly focused on this whole thing ending and a date at which you'll draw a line in the sand. It's been 18 months now. Vaccination rate is 90%+. Enough.
It's strange how protestors are always presented as maniacs. If the mask stuff is still going on next year, I think I'll end up being a maniac protestor too.
I thought the consequences of your choice were directly related to the possible magnitude of damage those choices may cause.
Driving without a valid licence can result in up to a 1,000 euro fine, if the licence expired less than 12 months before the offence took place, 2,000 euro if outside that time. Driving without insurance can result in up to a 5,000 euro fine, 5 penalty points and at the discretion of the court a prison sentence not exceeding 6 months.
Ah interesting. When are you drawing a line haha
The restrictions are just about arse-covering, nothing to do with preventing spread or making any sort of sense.
Basically balancing the Joe Duffy audience or the likes of that Michael O'Regan lad who are constantly terrified of the virus and would lose their reason at a full opening up vs opening up industries which have been out of commission for almost 2 years.
They want to be able to say that there is still restrictions and to be able to blame people for flaunting them which they are and will, and also to be able to say they are giving closed industries a chance to open up - As per usual spineless stuff.
I always thought it was just mainstream media who put out that sort of narrative (who are obviously just bought off propaganda). As for the people, complying the last 18 months has lead us to discriminatory vaccine passports, talk of more boosters, and the overhanging threat of "further lockdowns". So what's the way out?
To paraphrase Dan Andrews (Victorian Premier) in Australia recently:
"This will continue well into 2022. Anyone on the fence, you're not going to wait us out. It won't be about whether you've had your double jab, the question next year will be 'have you had your boosters'?"
We don't want to even consider going down this type of authoritarian path. Hence I'm saying people need to be focused on ending it all as soon as possible, not celebrating being allowed to dance without a mask.
Kind of difficult for anyone that’s free and single to see a future in Ireland at this point. Particularly given that the opposition want even tougher measures.
18 months ago 😄 I don't follow their guidelines as the politicians (and people who control them) don't really adhere to those guidelines themselves. Plenty of evidence re: that if you go look for it.
Do you remember last years "circuit breaker" that lasted from October until May with a 3 week break for Christmas
I'm the same. I play by my own rules. Nobody else's. Not even my own.
Was that supposed to be funny?
I'll give you a "ROTFL" for trying 😄👍
That's probably the most deliberately misunderstood "quote" of all time.
Used in its proper context - and when logically applied to Covid - it would defend the ability of the Government to impose restrictions for collective safety - the exact thing that those who tend to use the quote tend to be against.
An ability that is sadly very likely to be needed again before too long.
WITTES: The exact quotation, which is from a letter that Franklin is believed to have written on behalf of the Pennsylvania General Assembly, reads, those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
SIEGEL: And what was the context of this remark?
WITTES: He was writing about a tax dispute between the Pennsylvania General Assembly and the family of the Penns, the proprietary family of the Pennsylvania colony who ruled it from afar. And the legislature was trying to tax the Penn family lands to pay for frontier defense during the French and Indian War. And the Penn family kept instructing the governor to veto. Franklin felt that this was a great affront to the ability of the legislature to govern. And so he actually meant purchase a little temporary safety very literally. The Penn family was trying to give a lump sum of money in exchange for the General Assembly's acknowledging that it did not have the authority to tax it.
SIEGEL: So far from being a pro-privacy quotation, if anything, it's a pro-taxation and pro-defense spending quotation.
WITTES: It is a quotation that defends the authority of a legislature to govern in the interests of collective security. It means, in context, not quite the opposite of what it's almost always quoted as saying but much closer to the opposite than to the thing that people think it means.
Any takers for February to be the final month of restrictions as per our esteemed lords?
Needed a laugh thanks
After what was promised this month I don't think anybody will take that bet
I'm out, but had a quick scan through that. Basically a random individual (Benjamin Wittes) claiming the quote means the exact opposite of what nearly anyone would interpret it as. Ok...
Regardless, the point stands. I hope you feel "safe" with the 18 month restrictions for a virus so deadly that most need to get tested to even know they have.
He is not a random individual, he is a scholar who has actually studied the origins and context of the quote, whereas you are the random individual who has decided erroneously what it means.
The context doesn't matter. The words can be applied to this new normal world we find ourselves in. Liberty is hard to regain once surrendered.
If you're using a quote to try and argue for something, em, yes the context does matter, it matters a lot.
Especially when the quote argues for pretty much the opposite of what you are arguing for.
To be fair to this thread a lot of it is just slogans with no context, so what's one more!
We need a short sharp level 5 lockdown for a month to get things back on track so we can have a decent Christmas
No we don’t.we need people with the sniffles to stop getting tested and for the hse management to actually get up of their collective arses and do their jobs.