Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

I took it because I didn't want to catch or spread COVID and all faff that goes along with that, including the very small risk of death, and having elderly parents. Same reason I took the flu jab, not because I'm afraid of flu, but if it reduces the chance of symptoms, it hopefully reduces the chances of having to do the whole "isolation, get tested" thing etc down the line that I would need to do if symptoms did present themselves.

What have the Italians achieved by protesting?

Have you seen the restrictions still in place in Italy?

http://www.italia.it/en/useful-info/covid-19-updates-information-for-tourists.html

I don’t need 20 words only one “coercion” only brought in so people would get vaccinated against a virus which is low risk to the vast majority of people.

I agree to this if everyone stops making comparisons to the Holocaust!

I took it for the broader reason of bringing life back to a degree of normality

But there is no bad reason to take a vaccine so kudos

What the French deem worthy or unworthy of a protest wasn’t the purpose of the analogy. My point was that when they feel aggrieved by their governments actions they engage in mass protests to express their discontent. The government constantly act without any regard for Irish people and while we complain, we don’t really do anything about it; and that’s in a wider sense than just their response to Covid-19 i.e the bank bail-out, housing crisis.. the list goes on. We can hardly expect them to change their ways when our only response to their actions is voting them back in election upon election.

Do you show your passport at the airport? Or your ID at a nightclub? Or your drivers licence to the gards?

This place has been taken over by schizo conspiracy nuts. Sad state of affairs.

Which vaccine is it for a drivers licence these days?

Id love to know what some of you nutjobs think the conspiracy and plan behind the vaccine cert is? These people who go on that we need to be brave and stop living in fear are afraid of a qr code?

I'm fascinated to see how were going to move from these certs, which are no different to any other ID or legal doc such a a passport or drivers licence, go concentration camps, authoritarian regimes etc...

These same people, had they been around during ww2, when people were ushered underground to avoid bombing raids, told to turn off their lights at night to make it hard for bomber planes to find towns, would be resting and crying about the authoritarian regimes they were living under, despite the fact they were indeed fighting against nazi Germany.

You could start by not calling people who disagree with you names. It tends to undermine any claim of reasonable discourse you might have. Not everybody thinks like you nor follows this type of thread of logic. They are not planned as permanent impositions on people. The aim is to ensure that anybody visiting a hospitality establishment is vaccinated, theoretically to limit the potential spread of COVID, a measure forced on the government BTW by NPHET.

Some people just dislike the discriminatory nature of that, especially when some of those who are not vaccinated may not be able to get vaccinated. 

Driving a car is as much of a "civil right" as going into an pub indoors. All those certs I named are "descriminatory" against different groups.... Passports against "illegal" residents, ID against youth, drivers licence and insurance all against those who cannot drive. They're all in place as mechanisms of some sort, usually as a form of safety and health.

Certain vaccinations have been required to enter some countries for a very long time way before covid also.

I presume your talking that from RTE. Wouldn't be like them to not give the actual quote... he was asked about whats under consideration and he gave the standard answer that's been given for the last few days. Nothing extra was given away

Here's the quote,

Speaking to reporters in Sligo on Monday, he said: “The continuation of the Covid certs is certainly an item on the agenda as is mask wearing and so on."

But you have to show papers to drive a car or go abroad or go into a nightclub. Why is that okay and not causing you to hyperventilate your whole life?