Ireland badly needs a new centre-right party - Here's my proposal

as we d say, any actual solid data, i.e. proof, for any of that?

I'll vote for you OP.

I feel like im being sucked dry through taxes.

Im looking at relatives sooo much better off me living on the tit of the state, yet i am supposedly in the top 10% of earners.

More like the top 10% of workers to be milked.

Nevertheless it's what the OP wants. Is he not entitled to want what he wants and to deem that none of the current parties is offering it?

hahahaha, some conservatives are fcuking mental, theres no conspiracy of the msm! your brain is making it up!

economic ideologies have shifted to the right over the decades, on both the political left and right, this is ultimately where the confusion is occurring

so no actually, its different shades of right!

yes, these primarily right leaning political and economic ideologies mean, taxation has been moved away from capital and wealth, and towards labour and consumption, hence why you ve been getting fcuked, and fcuked nicely to, but the value of your assets have been doing good in all of this, so, happy days! oh and those on welfare have had virtually fcuk all to do with that!

Nothing back out of the system? Our taxes pay for healthcare (which absolutely needs to be improved, yes, but vested interests are doing their best to shaft Sláintecare!) - and even the ones on the top VHI plan benefitted from the covid vaccination programme! - existing and new infrastructure including roads and public transport, the Gardaí and courts, and so much more, not least of which is the education system.

Don't have kids going to school? You still benefit! Much better to be surrounded by educated and socialised people than the alternative!

Did she really? If you were a stockbroker living in Surrey - yes. If you lived north of the M25? Not so much.

The value of my assets are no near as good as the value of the €500k house my cousin lives in for life and neither herself or her boyfriend have never paid a penny tax in their lives. Well she did tell me she paid tax when she worked in Dunnes for a week in 2001. Oh and she keeps telling me she pays vat. Oh and a €3.50 prescription charge.

You are not convincing any tax payers out there I dare say.

Do you think perhaps people who dont pay taxes and get far more than the people who do pay lots of taxes is a bit off?

I just had to shell out €1500 for my commuter ticket, including a tax rebate on it.

My cousin and her husband get the same ticket for nothing. And they dont even commute.

So so many example of that kind of thing.

To answer your question the price of property is so high (only to tax payers mind you) is that way because government brought in rent controls.

The spiral from there and the never ending legislation has made rents and availability so bad that people are desperate to get out of the rental trap.

So they are bidding obscene sums on properties that are not worth that so as not top pay rents that keep going up.

Then what happens, the councils bid against them and bid up those poperties even higher. Using the poor tax payers own money to fcuk them over at every chance they get.

once again, the falls guys are ultimately the working taxpayers, this is a fundamental part of modern political and economic ideologies, as explained! as always, if you think welfare is what its cracked up to be, try it for a while, you might be surprised! again, yes, working taxpayers are getting screwed, and big time in all of this, at some stage, we re gonna have to stand up and say enough, and stop pointing the finger at the usual suspects, i.e. welfare classes, foreigners etc etc etc, as it is in fact these fundamental ideologies being enacted by both the political left and right.

once again, the price of property has truly taken off since the introduction of these political and economic ideologies, which began globally in the 70's and 80's, ireland was a little latter into this game, ultimately when we joined the euro, and off we went........ this is what we call a primarily fire sector lead economy(finance, insurance and real estate), of which we re still experiencing. yes you are correct, this approach to economics and politics has been driven from within our political systems and institutions, on both the left and right, oh and credit has been the form of money of choice in doing so, that comes from private sector financial institutions, we call these banks! graph,

once again, included!

again, the whole point of these ideologies is to fcuk you over, and thats how its being done, i.e. nothing to be doing with welfare classes and the scary foreigners etc etc!

I think you have, the only time they got any airtime was in the abortion referendum.

Besides that they are a non-entity. You only have to look at boards.ie to see it is very left leaning. Either centre left - further left. Any ounce of mention of anything approaching 'the right' is jumped on by zealous posters.

Ireland has a very middle of the road benign sort of politics compared to many countries,

Irish political culture is far removed from America for example - much more right wing than Ireland - by and large. Which is why many Irish people as shown on boards.ie are in hysteria over American politics. They are fascinated by it's machinations because it is not like Ireland politically at all. Yet many people feel they have a 'connection' to it which is an odd dichotomy.

Continental Europe is another who has extreme right v left politics but such countries are rarely discussed on boards.ie as there is not the same 'connection'.

You do realize how much a beand new council house is worth if an ordinary tax payer was to pay for it dont you?

There are plenty being given out now worth even more than that.