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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,477 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Tony will be on twitter soon preparing everyone for the worst. Freedom day is on a knife edge, maybe even even Christmas is in danger.

    An evil man will burn his own nation to the ground to rule over the ashes - Sun Tzu



  • Registered Users Posts: 849 ✭✭✭MilkyToast


    Can't wait for all the "the restrictions are ending, stop complaining, if they don't end on October 22 I will totally be on your side" people to continue being completely on board with every diktat.

    “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." ~C.S. Lewis



  • Registered Users Posts: 729 ✭✭✭SupplyandDemandZone


    Should have opened up fully in June and let people enjoy a few months of freedom. Opening up going into the indoors socialising season was always going to be risky.

    My prediction is they'll go ahead with the 22nd and cases will increase dramatically leading to another lockdown in November to protect our crap health service.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,985 ✭✭✭normanoffside


    The main thing i take from this article, is that Tony is back from another period of Leave on Monday to chair the NPHET meeting. It's like Deja Vu. Same thing happened last October.


    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/further-easing-of-covid-19-restrictions-in-doubt-amid-alarm-over-behaviour-of-virus-40945194.html



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,985 ✭✭✭normanoffside


    People who have decided not to get a vaccine are very unlikely to be the ones going to get tested.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,618 ✭✭✭Allinall


    I've had a few months of freedom since June.

    Been to the pub most weekends.

    Ate out in restaurants lots of times.

    Was in Spain and Portugal in July and September.



  • Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    I didn't say anything about testing, I was talking about catching it. If they end up in hospital they may well be tested anyway.



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,011 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Whats left to open, the whole country has moved on from this covid crap, any rural pub is packed and completely back to normal.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,141 ✭✭✭Rebelbrowser


    Well you are answering your own question. More often than not in urban areas, where most people live, the rules are being followed (i.e. vaccine cert checks, seating at socially distanced tables, etc). Not saying 100% or anything near it, but comfortably more than 50%. Your description of rural pubs, if correct, goes some ways toward answering my question as to how the numbers are rising again.....



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,011 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Are the numbers rising again, we had less cases last week than the week before, case numbers are very stagnant. Were we not told by these magic models that we would have 8k cases a day and over 800 in hospital last september.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,605 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    Are we back to this crap again of blaming the general public? Curtain twitchers starting to surface again. The public have done all that have been asked of them,one of the highest vaccine uptake in the world but anecdotal evidence of a few packed rural pubs is the root of all our problems. No wonder there is no backlash to restrictions in this country when most people lap up NPHET's advice and are quite happy to go along with it thinking it's all Joe Public's fault



  • Registered Users Posts: 38,156 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Yep typical Irish mindset

    'The experts know what there talking about and just shut up and take there advice'

    Its a koke at this stage, no wonder people's mental health is all over the place. True what you said we done all we were asked and took the vaccines. Mere 9 days out the rug been pulled from under us again



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,271 ✭✭✭Lollipop95



    They must open up on the 22nd - England have been open since July and are coping just fine, despite cases rising. I’ve complied since last March but if we’re not out of this by the 22nd/end of year at latest, then I would strongly consider emigrating to the UK.

    it just makes no sense, other countries with lower vaccination figures are doing better than us. In the US it’s been reported that the worst is over - it doesn’t make any sense?!



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,141 ✭✭✭Rebelbrowser


    Fair comment. My post is predicated on today's reports of anticipated growth in numbers being correct. Perhaps bigger fool me for not waiting. Point accepted.



  • Registered Users Posts: 15,425 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    if NPHET have concerns at this stage then better to be safe than sorry



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,141 ✭✭✭Rebelbrowser


    Nope. Its not a blame game - though as with anything in science there is inevitably cause and effect. But the only thing to blame here is the virus. Agreed as a country we have have been excellent in our response to it - and that includes our much maligned NPHET experts.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,641 ✭✭✭CorkRed93




  • Registered Users Posts: 729 ✭✭✭SupplyandDemandZone


    Irish people are great at logical thinking and doing what their supposed betters tell them but i get a feeling there will be trouble on the streets if this is rolled back on now from talking to people today. People's mental health is in tatters at this stage and this is now a step too far to be even considering.



  • Registered Users Posts: 26,975 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    I completely agree,

    I'm very curious , Fergal Bowers broke the story about serious concerns about covid complacency having set in and frankly I believe it has.

    It's completely gone off the news radar until tonight with over 2k cases and hospitalisation over 400.

    All Paul Reid, Roland Gylnn and Colm Henry have had to say is 70% are not fully vaccinated re hospitalisations, what about the 30% and the over 2k new cases today.

    It's abundantly clear NPHET have left the building at the behest of certain powerful individuals.

    2 Midlands hospitals have now stop all visitations and we're barely into week 2 of autumn. A prominent GP was asked a simple question about what's happening on the ground on the Claire Byrne show after the news broke about concerns earlier , her response, Alarming increase in illnesses being reported.

    I'm not advocating further lockdowns, just some common sense , which sadly I've seen out and about is gone out the window.

    Not doubt I'll raise a few hackles of horrors, don't bother, I've said my piece 😉

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    There you go ..we agree . Young and healthy people are hospitalised and in ICU with Covid , but in small amounts .

    Yes it is worse in those who have underlying conditions but thankfully vaccines have reduced that risk greatly.

    And no they are not all obese, to the poster who persists with that rhetoric . Obesity can be a risk factor but severe illness due to immunocompromise with conditions , eg cancer , or treatment eg biologic infusion therapy and chemo , are the main reasons that vaccinated people are admitted to ICU .

    Hence the urgency to give these people an extra dose.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,840 ✭✭✭TomTomTim


    No guarantee that 22 October reopening will go as planned - Martin


    This is boringly predictable

    “The man who lies to himself can be more easily offended than anyone else. You know it is sometimes very pleasant to take offense, isn't it? A man may know that nobody has insulted him, but that he has invented the insult for himself, has lied and exaggerated to make it picturesque, has caught at a word and made a mountain out of a molehill--he knows that himself, yet he will be the first to take offense, and will revel in his resentment till he feels great pleasure in it.”- ― Fyodor Dostoevsky, The Brothers Karamazov




  • Registered Users Posts: 15,425 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    This is it, we are barely into autumn winter and the numbers are concerning



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,641 ✭✭✭CorkRed93


    they cant be serious. 90% fully vaxxed its not going to get much better at this point. just drive on ffs



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,141 ✭✭✭Rebelbrowser


    Is there anything to be said for another mass?



  • Registered Users Posts: 38,156 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009




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    Time for the vaccinated to refuse to be tested.this is utter bulls€€t now.open up ta fcuk and get on with living and not hiding from a turbo charged flu with 99.7% recovery rate



  • Registered Users Posts: 26,975 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1




  • Registered Users Posts: 26,975 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    So......You thought you were getting freedom back.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,742 ✭✭✭PsychoPete


    If this does happen I really do hope there is some serious backlash over this from the general public but seeing how most people have just rolled over and gone along with what ever the government says, I don't told out much hope. Masks,social distancing and everything else that goes along with it should be completely gone by now and just carry on like normal. How long before we get the "saving Christmas" bullsh!t again



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