Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

Glib, sarcastic responses like that don't help your position, they only expose a complete lack of good faith engagement.

Unfortunately I think there is indeed a good chance we will have to reimpose restrictions during the winter. If we have to do so, it will be because there is no alternative.

You might think that letting the health service be overrun and Covid patients filling our hospitals is a good idea, and that more Covid in society will somehow magically improve treatment for other illnesses and medical problems. The sarcastic tone of your post would strongly indicate you do.

But that would be magical thinking. Living in a fantasy world.

Not at all. We've had a few large hospital outbreaks in the last week account for the uplift in hospital numbers but admissions are stable. Locking down the country because a hospital doesn't have robust enough infection control policies is bat shït crazy talk.

Mind you, when did anything we do in this country make a lick of sense anyway. Sure, tell you what, you worry about this "surge" while the rest of us get on with living our lives.

COVID or not, our hospitals are a complete and utter shambles. We had massive waiting lists for everything before COVID so the health system hiding behind this virus doesn't wash and people may be finally waking up to the fact that it's so poorly run we may actually start to see a push for some meaningful change.

I've given you the figures. They are official figures from the official Government website. If you want to wallow in the delusion of them not being real, that's your prerogative.

We've heard your sort of dismissive response many times before, and these sort of dismissive responses have always been wrong.

I genuinely don't understand why people are so determined to cock two fingers at reality and keep making the same mistakes over and over and over again.

I man can dream 😆

This thread would give ya nerves

So are you suggesting we will never return to normal? With this amount vaccinated this is as good as it gets I'm afraid! Don't think people would stand for lockdowns anymore to be honest.

I actually live in the real world chief, along with the majority of the country at this stage.

Funnily enough it's the likes of you that live in a fantasy world.

Covid is no longer a threat to the majority. No amount of patronising drivel like the above is going to change mine or anyone else's mind on that.

And who determines what's safe and what's not?

Only the over 60's get to work from home and everyone else back in the office?

This thing is coming to an end and the sooner people realize that the better.

If the excuse is the health service being overrun, I don’t see how they can justify another lockdown considering they have done nothing to expand the ICU capacity in the HSE. I’d say the cost of that is minimal in comparison with another lockdown, but then again when has any of this made sense?

With Eamon Ryan just recently making our emissions targets legally binding and with the reduction in emissions due to people working from home during lockdown, then it would make sense for the government to encourage companies to allow as many as possible to remain working from home. Even if that meant financial incentives for employers who would also benefit from lower overheads.

Some are calling for everything to go back to normal, by which I presume they mean back to how life was pre Covid, but that is just not going to happen. On how many levels, time will tell, but for anyone who believes we are just going to pick up where we left off in 2019 I`m afraid they may be disappointed.

7 day average of Admissions is 24, a week ago it was 26. 7 day average of cases detected in hospital is 41, a week ago it was 43.

If anything it's on a downward trend, so one would expect hospital figures to reduce.

The swab data contains results from tests taken up to 3 days previously, as mentioned in the press release.

The epidate seems a lot more stable. Maybe that's why the mass panic and doom and gloom seems to be here and not in the government

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If people want life to go back to the way it was in 2019, that's what'll happen.

I still see a lot of "we'll never return to 2019 normal" type stuff and I disagree. If that's what people want (which it presumably is) then it'll happen eventually.

Good post. As the PM of Israel said " vaccines are not the way out but just one of the tools "

So as Ireland heads towards " freedom " the only tools to hand are vaccines or restrictions to contain the spread that will happen once restrictions are eased. No increase in hospital or testing capacity suggests no plan to contain this virus or any other that may occur.

Mr Ryan also thinks it's realistic that every home should have a passive rating and heat pumps installed. Sure, it's only about 80k per house but we should all go out and remortgage our homes so Ryan and the other loony greens can sit at home and enjoy smelling their own farts, safe in the knowledge they've saved the planet.

Realistically, some will act like it's still the middle of a pandemic but the vast majority will get back to whatever precovid living was like for them.

So more restrictions, i thought vaccine passes were being done away with ?

If you are planning on opening everything up the only way to do so is by mass testing and Ireland can't do that because they never built up the capacity. There is no other possible solution unless it just goes away.