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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Indeed. Cyclingtourist it's pretty clear now you do like to throw digs at Fitz and I can give plenty of examples over the last few pages and yep the snide can go the other way too at times, but in the majority of cases by way of response. I've largely ignored it of late hoping against hope some grown up thinking would phase out this frankly childish ballsology, but it seems the softly softly approach isn't having the desired outcome. So no more. It leaves a bad smell around the place.

    Cyclingtourist dial the snide back please. If you have an issue with each other for christ knows what reason, then simply don't respond on thread. If one can't say anyhting nice, then don't say anything. That's a basic tenet we should all live by. It's really very simple. Or should be.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    This is what I posted regarding 'honesty'.

    "Fitz touts them as his honest opinion and I've no doubt that's what he believes but how honest can anyone genuinely be if they are reviewing a friend's expensive watch or one you've just sold to an acquaintance?"

    I acknowledged your good faith regarding the content but questioned whether someone reviewing a watch in certain circumstances would not be subject to unconscious bias, a tendency to pull ones punches.

    You choose to misrepresent what is plain English to base a personal attack on me and my motives. I'm only replying to this post of yours because you have moderated your tone somewhat.

    This is the last I will be posting now but I will continue to post my considered opinions when and where I like subject to the moderation same as everyone here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,720 ✭✭✭scwazrh


    As usual I’m agreeing with you Banie. There really has been a strong confrontational tone here for the last while. It’s ridiculous when you remember we’re probably in the nerdiest corner of boards but it is does come across as one or two posters wanting to be the big fish in a little pond.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭Fitz II


    Another first look vid of Unkle Panerai - I have a 5 euro bet on here so lets see if I win.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,149 ✭✭✭893bet


    It’s looks massive besides the BLNR. But does look relatively tidy on the wrist. I could never wear it and not into PAMs but it’s very nice really.


    The wave pattern, is that not just a case back sticker? Seems bizarre to hide the movement.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭Fitz II


    The movement is nice with perlage and brushing. But the plates are so big that the stickers are there to hide the vast area. If they had taken a Lange approach and done a coute de geneve, or a omega style unique pattern on the flat surfaces it would have looked mega. It's a nice movement with polished bevels and even one internal bevel so some effort went in, but they bottled it with the wave pattern. It's all machine finished but really that's not important. It's not a removable sticker.



  • Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭kostal2093


    My understanding is that the dial with its deep blue/black colour is to reflect the depths of the sea as if looking down from a boat while the back with the wave pattern etchings on the inside of the sapphire crystal is to reflect the surface waves. Obviously some person in marketing thought it was a great idea but it does ruin the visibility of the movement. The P4002 movement is partially obscured by this wave pattern also which is a real pity.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,708 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,932 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    That's nice, and it's got a GMT!

    Actually on the topic of Panerai's newer GMT's? Is it true that there's no quick set date, rather that you advance the jumping hour to advance the date?



  • Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭kostal2093


    That is correct Banie. On the automatic 946 version, the date is set (back or forward) by the jumping local hour hand but the second hand continues as normal - so time setting is unaffected. However, there is the added feature of a 'zero reset seconds' and not just 'hacking' when you wish to change the time by pulling the crown out to the second position. A really brilliant feature as also seen on the ALS Sax-O-Mat.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,720 ✭✭✭scwazrh


    You showed that dial & Crystal very well.Really is a great example of Panerai but I think that strap is letting it down ,looks a lot nicer on a blue rubber or leather .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,708 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    Toshi black leather with ecru stitching is on the way to me. Cork strap is scheduled for production. Numerous other straps no doubt will follow 😃



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭Fitz II


    Patek Aquanaut 5167R



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭Fitz II




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,708 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    That is gorgeous I want one!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,071 ✭✭✭dakar


    I enjoyed that. If there’s one Rolex that could make me jump on the train, this is it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    It's a gorgeous look but whether it's worth the money is only something each individual can decide for themselves.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,071 ✭✭✭dakar


    As with every single discretionary purchase we make.

    I read ‘The Undercover Economist’ by Tim Harford years ago and one thing really stuck with me. Every time we spend €3.00 of a coffee or whatever, we are making a value judgement, consciously or otherwise, that there is nothing else in the world we would rather do with that €3.00. Same goes for a €3k purchase or a €10k one.

    I’m lucky enough to have a degree of disposable income. I could buy a Rolex. I have chosen not to so far as there are other things I can do with the money.

    Currently Nikon D6’s are calling me. There are some self evident differences between a D6 and a Milgauss. One, the D6, is a genuine step forward from what I have currently, but will be worth very little financially in a few years. The Milgauss is functionally no different to what I currently have, but will likely hold its value fairly well. So different value prospects.

    21st century middle class white boy problems…

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    Dakar quote:

    "I read ‘The Undercover Economist’ by Tim Harford years ago and one thing really stuck with me. Every time we spend €3.00 of a coffee or whatever, we are making a value judgement, consciously or otherwise, that there is nothing else in the world we would rather do with that €3.00. Same goes for a €3k purchase or a €10k one."

    Yes but. As you go up the purchase scale you tend to put more thought into it, unless you're seriously wealthy that is. This from someone who consciously has something to eat and drink before leaving the house so that I won't feel the need to visit cafés.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,708 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    It's quite an objective one actually. If you have money in a current or savings bank account or on deposit, doing very little for you, it's probably wiser to stick it into a Rolex like this Milgauss instead. It's well priced for a sports Rolex. You can very easily cash it in again within days anywhere in the world. You put it all risk on your home insurance, so literally all risks are covered from loss to theft. The only risk you have is that the watch would depreciate. It is almost certain that it won't.

    And you get to wear a beautiful and classy watch. Basically for nothing.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,149 ✭✭✭893bet


    As Rolex go I think it’s smashing. Too thick for me but the dial is special in comparison of the typical sterile sports Rolex.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 554 ✭✭✭RMDrive


    I would like to read more posts like this. Each one helps build the mental justification to myself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,708 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    LOL, you're welcome! I wouldn't post it if I wasn't 100% behind what I said though. Maybe that helps.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    Yes this is the familiar argument, wear a Rolex for 'free' (unless you damage it) before effortlessly flipping it. Thanks but I will keep my money in the bank and my Omega AT on my wrist, it's my subjective choice.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,720 ✭✭✭scwazrh


    I bet you stay away from that fool’s gold cryptocurrency as well CT



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,708 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!



    As I said, the home insurance covers all risks. Remember that hitemfrank dropped his (mine) (Fitz's) Milgauss and he faced a €1400 bill? Covered by his insurance.

    Your Omega is lovely and you've come a long way on this crazy journey. Don't be surprised if at some point you will want a Rolex though. Yeah you will now say never, but that's what I said about 5 years ago too 😂



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    So insurance all ways pays up and when you sell you'll always get what you paid and cover your costs? I'm a bit sceptical but that's just me. Anyway even though the Milgauss is nice it's not for me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,708 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    You have to have the watch as a specified all risk item on your insurance. They will look for a valuation on it. Before I had expensive watches, the only thing listed was my wife's engagement ring. One day the diamond went missing, and yes the insurance company paid out without any hassle. And yes buy a relatively cheap Rolex sports watch like that Milgauss and it is very unlikely it will go down in value over time.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    Right, so say it's a hot day and you're in your sports car with the top down and you take off the sub, putting it on the passenger seat. A while later you stop and leave the car for a minute to take a couple of snaps of the beautiful view and upon returning there's no sign of the sub. So the insurance won't say you should have locked it in the boot?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,708 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    Insurance forum is over there ------>>>>>



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,720 ✭✭✭scwazrh


    If your careless enough to leave your watch on the passenger seat of your car you probably shouldn’t be wearing valuable watches .



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,193 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,310 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    Don't mock convertibles, they're cool as fúck to drive. Can't wait till the kids fúck off so I can get one



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭Fitz II


    I had a convertible for a bit, old 1990 e30 BMW was a lovely car, did a good bit of refurb on her. Sold her in a fit of madness cause I was bored and wanted another project once I had her mint (next project never appeared, bought a watch with the money instead). Love a bit of topless motoring, only thing I didn't realise was that you get sunburned to bits...had to keep sunscreen in the car as even on a cloudy day you can get scalded. I miss that car.





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭Fitz II


    Looks like I will hit the 500 today, sub count very steady at 3 or 4 a day, so another 3-4 months should see me at the fabled 1k mark..

    Here is my best comment to date, on the ceramic Daytona vid ....what gets into people at all, what do you even say?

    These guys are much better lol

    Its a bit of crack the youtube game, a real insight into the though processes of people in a medium without consequences. People tend to drop a comment and never return, so like getting shouted at in the street.I suppose though people are only egged on the comment if they feel you need telling your wrong.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    None of those comments are from me, in case anyone's wondering.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,149 ✭✭✭893bet


    Watch collecting is a nerd pastime. It’s gotten a little “cooler” and mainstream lately.


    Those streams set it back. Middle aged and old me in their box rooms argueing and discussing watches. Begging for superchats and thanking then person that sends them over and over. Talk of the “community”. I find it a little nauseating.


    edit…..whooops wrong thread



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,796 ✭✭✭mailforkev


    Well done on the (almost) 500 subs. Interesting to see that the Tudor BB Chrono is the most popular vid by a fair margin.

    Internet comments sections never fail to convince me that I live in a parallel universe to some other people.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,708 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!



    And my JC is third! BTW I was the first subscriber to the channel. Might turn out to be my only claim to fame in life 🤣



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Second subber here. Jaysus it's just like youtube. 😁

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭Fitz II


    Oldie but a goodie, this is what a well worn watch looks like




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    The quartz version is less expensive, has exactly the same case/bracelet and you can pop it on the wrist any time without having to reset the time. Personally the non-sweep second hand doesn't bother me. Agree the bezel is virtually impossible to use but for me that's not an issue. It has 'presence' without being oversized or loud.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,149 ✭✭✭893bet


    I am in a minority here based on the love in I have seen on a recent thread but I really don’t see the allure with that watch and that range and never did. It looked dated back in the 90s and looks worse now. Current version looks dated. Hate the bracelet design in general.


    I was too young to be interested in watches in the 90s compared to most of you corpses so I may have missed all the marketing during the formative years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭Fitz II


    For me 893 its 99% nostalgia and 1% watch. Its so dated looking now thats its retro. I think if the nostalgia misses the mark with you its not a good prospect. Still tis no sh1tter, although at the 2500 - 3k mark a newer collector might be better advised look at a BB58 for its superior design.....my feeling is in 20 years the BB58 will be the same, that first aspirational / hard won watch for a lot in the hobby.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    'Dated' suits me fine if that's how others view it but to me it's modern.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,708 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    I wouldn't use the word dated, the watch looks fresh to me. Classic!


    @Cyclingtourist - the quartz wears quite differently. It's thinner and lighter. Great if you like that, but personally I prefer the heft and substance of the auto. I've owned both. The auto was my first "good" swiss watch. Had it as my only watch for 3 years, wore it every day no matter what I did that day. The only reason I sold is because I upgraded to Rolex. An interesting journey we are on, although it is a different one for all of us 😁



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    unkel quote:

    "I wouldn't use the word dated, the watch looks fresh to me. Classic!"

    I agree, only mentioned it being 'dated' because Fitz did. It's a modern classic.

    FitzII quote:

    "Its so dated looking now thats its retro."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,796 ✭✭✭mailforkev


    I’ve had one of these since the 00s.

    Design is a funny thing, how we all see things differently. I still think that the 2531 is the best looking Seamaster of the lot. The dial and the font on the bezel are both spot on.

    i do like the bracelet but it’s pin and collar and has no micro adjustment which sucks.

    Doesn’t get a huge amount of wear these days but it’s a reminder of good times so won’t ever get moved on at this stage.

    Unbelievably, I was actually unaware of the Bond thing when I bought it. Found out soon after.



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